QuoteEl Tel, most likely because Delaney is a sucker and will go fro Venables "pedigree" over more obvious choices. Hell, I'd take O'Leary over him any day.
I believe it will be O'Leary. I believe he will convince Howe and Givens that he is the right man for the job. He might come across on the telly as a tosser but O'Leary is is far from being a fool. And I disagree with Cascarino's view that O'Leary is the most disliked man in English football. He got the Leeds job and overall did a good job. He did ok at Villa. I feel like kicking in the TV anytime he comes on but thats not the point here. He is popular with a particular strand of English society (conservative. Not so much tories just conservative in views). And I feel Howe and Givens are old school types themselves. And they will eventually put forward O'Leary's name to the FAI for rubber stamping. I am not convinced that Venables will want to be interviewed. I just can't see it happening. Souness has a better chance of becoming Scotland manager. Haan has no real chance. Daglish who has now put his name forward has some chance. But like Venables does not want to be interviewed for the job. Kinnear no chance. Hodgson and Brady are 2 and 3. Hodgson is willing to be interviewed and will make a compelling case to be given the job. Brady likewise. If Hodgson can convince the 2 Don's that he can control this group of players then he will pip O'Leary.
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El Tel, most likely because Delaney is a sucker and will go fro Venables "pedigree" over more obvious choices. Hell, I'd take O'Leary over him any day.
sam allardyce - everyone's sick of looking at the same candidates for the last month, the media are almost bored of them.
allardyce will be available next week by the looks of things. and then everyone will say "yeah sam allardyce he did a great job with bolton" "bolton very similiar to ireland" "lets go for sam" etc etc he will be the flavour when the decision is made and possibly a good compromise candidate.
That is not beyond the bounds. If Allardyce knew he had the job he would walk tomorrow.Originally Posted by eekers
El Tel before O'Leary, that's a no brainer.
I would lose the will to live if I had to believe in O'Leary.
Venables knows there are millions to be gained from qual for a WC.
Like usual we will get some compromise like Dalgleish.
I read about the mumbling and grunting from the Newcastle players when Big Sam asked them whether they liked him or not. Owen wants out. He did'nt play Given for a few games and then bizarley went public with his opinion that he felt Given was imaging his injury!
I would have to contemplate for the first time in my life taking up another sport if O'Leary got the job. I could'nt afford to keep replacing the broken tellys. Believe me. O'Leary has a real chance of getting the job. I just hope sanity prevails.
O'Leary will not get this team through to the WC. I would have McCarthy back in a heartbeat over O'Leary if we are going Irish.
I think Venables will get it.
If Alderdyce became available he'd be ideal however. Even if we decided to definately go Irish, I'd choose Aldridge ahead of O'Leary. I can see what Noely means with that conservative comment though, my aul fella thinks O'Leary be'd a great appointment. I think its a lot to do with the "respectable" way he puts himself across.
It must be said that O'Leary was a great player. Watched him on TV make his debut against England at Wembley. He gave Keegan nothing that night. He played some great games for Ireland. And was a loyal and skilful player at Arsenal. I just can't see him getting this particular group of players to the WC finals.
I agree about O Leary. He had few bad nights in a green shirt, and his dedecation to the Irish cause is not in question, but I've no wish to see him manage Ireland, as he never really struck me as the motivational sort who could halt a team in decline.
His management style has been cited as
1. Win.
2. Blame players if #1 not achieved.
3. Throw money at problem
4. Blame players when money-throwing unsucessful
5. Throw more money at problem
6. Blame players when sacked.
which is a tad unfair, but still funny, and close enough to the truth...
I believe Delaney wants Venables. I have no proof, I just get a nastier feeling than usual when I hear Delaney making that lying noise he makes when he's on telly recently. It's up to the Magnificent Two to convice him that there are better options out there who do more than just tick the "Currently Unemployed" & "willing to meet for a chat" boxes.
Who Do I want? I want Mourinho. Well, what I want is for The FAI to go to Mourinho and put their case to him, and when he refuses, I want to know why. I want to know exactly what he told them, and I want it printed in every newspaper in Europe, so that there isn't a cave on this glorious continent that wouldn't be aware that our Football association cannot attract a world class manager because it is staffed, almost to a man, by Junket-loving semi-coherent buffoons who know a huge amount about accountancy, but bugger all about football.
This won't, however, happen, as Mourinho hasn't "thrown his hat into the ring" like the has-beens that currently top the favourites list.
As the above idea is a non-starter, I instead want the FAI to cut out this tuppence hapenny farce of a "world class" headhunting team, comprising of an FAI employee and an associate of Terry Venables who unremarkably managed Arsenal for a spell over 20 years ago, and put together a proper team, made up of people of the stature of Platini, Beckenbauer, Cruyff et al, who wouldnt suffer gladly the standard FAI bollockology that the Brothers Don will most likely be fed.
However, this won't happen either, as John has spoken , and the wheels of farce are turning.
We arent looking for a world class manager, we are seemingly just looking for someone unemployed who used to play football.
We are running the crappiest of selection processes, and I fear we'll get the manager we deserve.
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
I'd say the reason that Mourinho would turn the FAI down if asked is that they couldn't afford his salary demands.
No doubt that the FAI are staffed, almost to a man, by Junket-loving semi-coherent buffoons who know a huge amount about accountancy, but bugger all about football, but I don't think that would be Jose's reason for saying no.
Who I want? Hodgson. He's clearly a tactically shrewd manager, capable of maximizing potential. I'd take him even if he leaves after 1 campaign, as he often does, because we'd be a far more attractive proposal to potential managers at the end of his tenure than we are now.
Who will we get? Venables, it seems. It looks to me, and most others, like the FAI have already made up their mind, but just want to try and give the appearance of having searched for the right person.
What really frustrates me is that names that the likes of Derby, Birmingham, Bolton and Wigan weren't even considering for their jobs like O'Leary (would be a disaster), Brady (failed miserably twice and would do so again)and Venables (miles ahead of the previous 2 but still well past his best and a dodgy private life) are the main ones being mentioned for our job.
Roy Hodgson is miles ahead of any of the above and easily the best candidate mentioned so far. Houillier has done well but I have concerns re his time at Liverpool and mhis manmanagement skills.
Now in fairness to the FAI the only person we know that was approached is Paul Jewell who IMO would have been a good choice.
If you believe the papers then Venables is the choice of JD however he has said he has had no approach and he also has some journalists who will link him to jobs at will. I know Venables was strongly linked with a job for a while in the past and was never ever in the running.
Other names that should be in the running are the likes of Billy Davies - decent job at Preston and got promotion too soon at Derby.
But as to who i think will get the job then I really really hope I'm wrong but it does look like Venables.
hodgson will get the job if he is not given the england job.
Agree with O'Leary being the type who will be popular with the two Don's but I think even they would go for Hodgson before O'Leary as the players won't mess about with him as manager. If they do, then the players really are a lost cause.
Before the recruitment panel was created, I would have seen El Tel having a great chance. However, I just can't see him being a popular choice with Givens.
Houllier will get the Irish job, I have faith in Givens and Howe to make a proper evaluation and conclude that Houllier checks all the boxes.
Hodgson will not want the job, Venables is not suitable and will always be looking elsewhere.
I think that Venables already has it based on what is happening at the moment.
The people picked to headhunt make me believe this.
Townsend turns down the job. Did I hear rumour that he would come in with Venables if successful? Couldn't be involved in picking his own man.
Don Howe has already worked with Venables in the England set up.
The decision on Don Givens amazes me but thinking about that I would take it to be a decision based on the fact that Delaney wants his choice put forward. There is no fear of Givens going against that.
If it was my choice I would like either Hodgson or Alderdyce with Hodgson being the prefered candidate.
I can't see beyond Venables simply because I think the FAI has already decided.
I heard that Dowie may be leaving Coventry if they are forced into administration. Just another name in the frame.
Hodgson is probably the best candidate. I share GS's concerns about Houllier but I think he's a good candidate too.
Terry venables -good coach, crap manager surrounded by controversy most of his career
Graham Souness- good coach, crap manager
Both of them crap managers -there are many more examples too.
One good thing that might come of this debacle is that the advisory board might finally realise that coach/ manager are two completely different jobs with completely different skills required, and just because you might be good at one, doesn't automatically mean you are good at the other.
What we need now is a proper MANAGER, with a good coaching infrastructure behind him so I would go for Roy Hodgson.
Hodgson will not get the England job.
Apparently the Cappello/Zola ticket is the hot fav at the moment.
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