QuotePro Venables James Lawton - Irish independent/IndependentOriginally Posted by Schlooooomp
His articles are generally very good i thought - well until he offered his opinions on venables!!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-1219835.html
You missed Eamon Carr in the Herald again mate. Arguing very eloquently against him regularly.
Pro Venables James Lawton - Irish independent/Independent
His articles are generally very good i thought - well until he offered his opinions on venables!!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-1219835.html
Marge: Homer, the plant called. They said if you don't show up tomorrow don't bother showing up on Monday.
Homer: Woo-hoo. Four-day weekend
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Trappattoni+Tardelli+Brady=Holy Trinity of Irish Football
Pro venables:
John Giles - RTE - conditional support, based on venables concentrating on the Irish job and not media profile
Paul Hyland - The Evening Herald
Paul Lennon - The Star
Roy Curtis - The Sunday World
Kenny Cunningham - The Evening herald
Dion Fanning - Irish Independent
Liam Mackey - Irish Examiner
James lawton - Irish Independent
Mark Lawrenson
Most players or ex-players have positive things to say about venables, not gonna name names on this one.
Anti venables:
Eamon Dunphy - RTE/The Star
Tom Humphries - The Irish Times
Daniel McDonnell - Irish Independent
Kieran Cunningham - The Star
Eamon Carr - The Evening Herald
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Newstalk - Off The Ball show
ALAN SUGAR - I'll add him but I'm not sure he has come out and said anything specifically about the Irish job.
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Last edited by Schlooooomp; 05/12/2007 at 1:37 PM.
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He can't..... He's too busy taking care of the drainage in the lower field!!Ah sure we are only a poor small country ( doffing cap in subservience).Juanace, get a grip and get out of the 19th Century for fcuk sake
Thats a great point, clearly im stuck in the 19th Century. Of course we can get a manager that would luv top manage Ireland as much as Brazil. What was i thinkingAh sure we are only a poor small country ( doffing cap in subservience).
We ARE a small country in the football sense.. its called REALISM. We arent gonna get a Mourinho. And you arent gonna get me to protest against a decent candiate for the job.
Welcome back Juanace, as you can see we have put up a list of those "media types" that are pro and anti venables. Once you take out the forums and Alan Sugar, it is clear that based on the above list the media is by and large pro venables. Do you have any names for the anti venables list to back up your claim from yesterday?
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So? Neither is anybody else. He's too big for international football and is using the English F.A. to expediate the process of getting 1 of the BIG club jobs.Thats a great point, clearly im stuck in the 19th Century. Of course we can get a manager that would luv top manage Ireland as much as Brazil. What was i thinking
We ARE a small country in the football sense.. its called REALISM. We arent gonna get a Mourinho. And you arent gonna get me to protest against a decent candiate for the job.
In fairness Schlooooomp you've picked out the "media types" i'd have mentioned. RTE footy panel (not so convinced Gilesy was pro venables, Newtalk 106, Tom Humphries and this forum! Do't generally read the others so i'll accept maybe there is more pro than con, i just aint been reading it.
Still think he's a decent canditate mind
I disagree totally, as long as Ireland can pay as much as other average nations we should be able to attract a decent calibre of manager (Not the mourinhos of this world obviously). And, we can probably pay more than most average nations to boot...Gus hiddink at Australia for example.Thats a great point, clearly im stuck in the 19th Century. Of course we can get a manager that would luv top manage Ireland as much as Brazil. What was i thinking
We ARE a small country in the football sense.. its called REALISM. We arent gonna get a Mourinho. And you arent gonna get me to protest against a decent candiate for the job.
Marge: Homer, the plant called. They said if you don't show up tomorrow don't bother showing up on Monday.
Homer: Woo-hoo. Four-day weekend
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Trappattoni+Tardelli+Brady=Holy Trinity of Irish Football
Man... Seriously... Where did you read any of the regulars here saying we're gonna get Mourinho???
I wouldn't soil the good name of cowboys by calling Terry Venables one!!
The point i'm trying to make (and i think anyone else could see it) is that in my humble opinion we arent in the running for an absolutely top level manager. The names in the media are the guys we can get and I think Venables aint a bad one.So? Neither is anybody else. He's too big for international football and is using the English F.A. to expediate the process of getting 1 of the BIG club jobs.
Fair point, though i'd reckon he was on more than you'd think.I disagree totally, as long as Ireland can pay as much as other average nations we should be able to attract a decent calibre of manager (Not the mourinhos of this world obviously). And, we can probably pay more than most average nations to boot...Gus hiddink at Australia for example.
I heard a great stat on newstalk a few weeks back.
Theres only two managers in Serie A thats on a million a year. The money doesnt seem to be in Serie A anymore, but they still have top quality managers. I think our idea of the standard wage is being distorted somewhat what with our proximity to the cash cow that is the EPL.
Realistically speaking we should be able to get a very capable european manager with the money we have to offer. Id take Hodgson/Coppell in the blink of an eye!
Marge: Homer, the plant called. They said if you don't show up tomorrow don't bother showing up on Monday.
Homer: Woo-hoo. Four-day weekend
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Trappattoni+Tardelli+Brady=Holy Trinity of Irish Football
Few people realistically expect a Mourinho; however if Finland, Poland and their like can attract, and pay for, top quality European managers, why must Ireland be content with cast-offs & failures from the English game?
thats the problem, good old ireland always setting our sights low, as if we should be grovelling for someone like hodgson...
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It's not a closed forum.
Anyone can register and participate, it helps keep certain snoopers and sniffers from a certain organisation out.
It has only been that way for a few weeks.
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"It's time for the FAI to grow up." John O'Donoghue, Minister for Sport, RTE , Sunday 7 Nov 2004
Okay, I registered one time but it was never accepted or verified, I have a Groucho Marx complex
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"It's time for the FAI to grow up." John O'Donoghue, Minister for Sport, RTE , Sunday 7 Nov 2004
Spot on. We may as well hang a sign over the country saying
"CAN'T AFFORD JOSE. WILLING HAS-BEENS PLS Q HERE - SMALL WAGES BUT CRAIC LEVEL : 90"
Defeatist attitudes permeate throughout the footballing fraternity here, from the very top down, so much so , that now we believe that nations of a similar quality are more entitled to a world class manager than we are.
The first step to convincing a Jose or a Scolari or a Capello that we are contenders is to stop faffing around massaging the egos of Has-beens like Kendall and shameless joyriders like Venables and approach the very best saying "We believe you are the man to lead our squad of players to the world cup. Here's our proposal, what exactly can we do to make you take this job?
We may well be blown out of the water come salary negotiation time, but way things are going, it seems like the FAI are perfectly happy never to find that out, & I have no idea why.
Dammit it'd better than what we're currently saying : "We have no manager. Who's unemployed and desperate? Perhaps we should wait until Finland, England , Scotland, South Korea etc etc etc ad infinitum have hired a manager, so we can have our choice of the 20th best unemployed Managers in the world, eh?"
The "Ah sure, we're only Ireland, why would anyone good come here?" attitude annoys the hole off me. The job is there, the potential for qualifying is there, and I firmly believe that, for the right man, the money is there.
The only drawback is that the FAI are there too, and since their bollockology seems to be causing all the problems we're having regarding "world class selection teams", their unwillingness to do a balls-out, teeth bared old fashioned headhunt, the usual level of executive interference, and generally, being gobshytes, they are the main obsticle to appointing a world class manager.
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
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