A 'Home' Squad

Originally Posted by cavan_fan

Ahh, the famine we can't let it go can we!


By the way no, no, no to this idea, why not a combined Irish, Italian and Isaeli team on the basis that we all start with the letter I. (though EG will no doubt point out we start with the letter R!)

Eh no we can't let it go . Because a declining population from the 1840's to the 1960's ensured that when we did get independence we were condemned to the economic doldrums for most of the first 75 years of statehood.

Standing idly by and doing nothing when people are dying of hunger, or exporting food from the country at the same time is as bad as actively murdering them morally speaking !

I like your I idea for sure. The Italians would ensure we would be tight defensively, the Israelis would ensure we would aggressively regain possession and Kevin Doyle and Luca Toni would get the goals.

Originally Posted by lopez

Now that's a great idea. Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony. Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh lord why dont we? Someone needs to do that for a testimonial.

As an Idea for a testimonial XI it's brilliant. There are a few more Ivorians in the Premiership . Zakora is at Spurs for one and they should call themselves Tricolour United FC.

And what about a manager?
Would it have to a home grown one or could it be a foreigner?
Mourinho perhaps?

Originally Posted by sullanefc

Please tell me what the difference between a 'home nation' and the 'united kingdom' is.

All I know is that Ireland is neither.

I know what a high horse is, and unfortunately most people don't seem to have sufficient levels of politcal maturity to come off theirs on this one, but i never expected that to happen.

But for what its worth, a home nation is one of the 4 nations that make up the British Isles

Originally Posted by backtowalsall

I know what a high horse is, and unfortunately most people don't seem to have sufficient levels of politcal maturity to come off theirs on this one, but i never expected that to happen.

But for what its worth, a home nation is one of the 4 nations that make up the British Isles

Well in football terms there are 5 nations which make up the so-called British isles so that 4 excludes us. The Four Home Nations were England, Scotland , Wales and the Wee North.

Originally Posted by backtowalsall

I know what a high horse is, and unfortunately most people don't seem to have sufficient levels of politcal maturity to come off theirs on this one, but i never expected that to happen.

But for what its worth, a home nation is one of the 4 nations that make up the British Isles

Is that the official political title


Get a grip man

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

As an Idea for a testimonial XI it's brilliant. There are a few more Ivorians in the Premiership . Zakora is at Spurs for one and they should call themselves Tricolour United FC.

As it's my idea, I'd like it for my testimonial.

Originally Posted by backtowalsall

Would have to say I consider us one of the home nations. It is to ignore our history and geography to say otherwise.

They are the British and Irish Lions btw

You must have been sleeping in late and missed the last 86 years then.

As for the term the British Isles, that's an old remnant of the Empire that the English still like to cling onto that has no basis in reality in the 21st century. It's a disputed term whose use should be avoided by any self respecting Irishman.

Originally Posted by youngirish

You must have been sleeping in late and missed the last 86 years then.

As for the term the British Isles, that's an old remnant of the Empire that the English still like to cling onto that has no basis in reality in the 21st century. It's a disputed term whose use should be avoided by any self respecting Irishman.

Northwestern European archipelago is a term of choice now.

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

And what about a manager?
Would it have to a home grown one or could it be a foreigner?
Mourinho perhaps?

Well, I don't think Mourinho would recognize the legitimacy of a team where the independent ROI is merged with the UK, but I think that a manager would have to be a manager of this make-believe team from the make-believe Home Nations would have to be a manager from the last campaign of these teams. Therefore, the Scottish and Wee Countrys managers will have ditched for clubs money, so they are all out, McLaren may be too upset to take the post after "the saddest day of his life" therefore Stan's the only choice. Would he do it? You tell me.

Of course, If we're a 'home nation' , then that renders any Scots, Norironers, Welsh or Englishmen as similarly "home grown' and certainly out of the "foreigner' equasion, meaning if we were to look for a 'foreigner' manager, we of the home nations would most probably be best served having consultancies with the sporting representatives of the Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, or perhaps even the swarthy Iberian empires.

My own personal choice would be a tactitian of Prussian / Bavarian stock, in fact as I recall, Corporal Otto Von Schteck's XI certainly gave our boys one hell of a beating in the Christmas fixture of 1914. Perhaps the Home nation Sporting ministry (Association football, Department of Eire affairs) , open minded as they are, should give him a call?

Originally Posted by backtowalsall

Would have to say I consider us one of the home nations. It is to ignore our history and geography to say otherwise.

They are the British and Irish Lions btw

Would have to say I consider you an idiot.

I suspect my view has a larger degree of accuracy than yours...

Originally Posted by SuperDave

Northwestern European archipelago is a term of choice now.

Havn't heard that before - just the IONA (Islands of the North Atlantic).

I prefer the term 'Celtic Isles'. Every single island and constituent part of what dinosaurs still refer to as 'The British Isles' has a Celtic presence. Conversely, neither the Republic of Ireland nor the Isle of Man are part of Britain/the UK, or British.

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

As an Idea for a testimonial XI it's brilliant. There are a few more Ivorians in the Premiership . Zakora is at Spurs for one and they should call themselves Tricolour United FC.

With Drogba playing would it be all right to have a tricolour with Chelsea written on it?

Originally Posted by Superhoops

With Drogba playing would it be all right to have a tricolour with Chelsea written on it?

No. It would have to say aeslehC.

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Havn't heard that before - just the IONA (Islands of the North Atlantic).

I prefer the term 'Celtic Isles'. Every single island and constituent part of what dinosaurs still refer to as 'The British Isles' has a Celtic presence. Conversely, neither the Republic of Ireland nor the Isle of Man are part of Britain/the UK, or British.

Look up the origins of the term 'British'. Specifically, look for the term 'Pretanic'. 'Celtic' derives from a Greek term applied to the Gauls by the Romans. We're far more British than Celtic.

Originally Posted by John83

Look up the origins of the term 'British'. Specifically, look for the term 'Pretanic'. 'Celtic' derives from a Greek term applied to the Gauls by the Romans. We're far more British than Celtic.

So we're not greek!

Originally Posted by Dodge

So we're not greek!

he's right you know, here it is in black and white:

http://www.pretanicworld.com/Neolithic.html

or marroon and a sort've mustard shade if you prefer..

so who's playin left wing, bale or duff??

Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

No. It would have to say aeslehC.

with the letters on the back of the flag!

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Would have to say I consider you an idiot.

I suspect my view has a larger degree of accuracy than yours...

The feeling is entirely mutual.

Havn't heard that before - just the IONA (Islands of the North Atlantic).

I prefer the term 'Celtic Isles'. Every single island and constituent part of what dinosaurs still refer to as 'The British Isles' has a Celtic presence. Conversely, neither the Republic of Ireland nor the Isle of Man are part of Britain/the UK, or British

The name Britannia derived from the travel writings of the ancient Greek Pytheas around 320 BC, which described various islands in the North Atlantic as far North as Thule (probably Iceland). Although Pytheas' own writings do not survive, later Greek writers described the islands as the αι Βρεττανιαι or the Brittanic Isles. The peoples of these islands of Prettanike were called the Πρεττανοι, Priteni or Pretani. These names derived from a Celtic name which is likely to have reached Pytheas from the Gauls, who may have used it as their term for the inhabitants of the islands. Priteni is the source of the Welsh language term Prydain, Britain, which has the same source as the Goidelic term Cruithne used to refer to the early Brythonic speaking inhabitants of Ireland and the north of Scotland. The latter were later called Picts or Caledonians by the Romans.

That is what i mean by Geography and history. This island and these islands have a history that extends beyond the English version that starts in 1066.

Trying reading a bit. I'm sure theres a decent library in Derry.