Hugely Over rated/Under rated Players

**Dodge** · 29/11/2007, 2:36 PM

Overrated; Gerrard, Ibrohamovic, Gerrard, Hargreaves, Gerrard, most Irish players, cannavarro, gerrard

Underrated; Iniesta, Gallas, Nesta, Deco,

**osarusan** · 29/11/2007, 2:58 PM

Originally Posted by see's it

nakata is finished playing i think anyone know where he is?

yeah, he's retired. He's hiking in Vietnam or something like that now. Seriously.

**EAFC_rdfl** · 29/11/2007, 3:01 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

Over rated: Rio, Gerrard, Fowler, Adriano, Nakamura, Downing, Pepe, Podolski, Schweinsteiger

Under rated: Carragher, Afonso Alves, Given, Defoe, Benayoun, Benjani, Kim Kjallstrom, Juninho, Lescott, Mancini, Naismith, Cousin, Ribery

naismith&cousin?? aye right!

I didn't think it was possible to under rate benayoun, he's muck

Larsson was underrated until he put arsenal to the sword&even now a lot make little of him cause he "played in a ****e league..."

for most of his career

**see's it** · 29/11/2007, 3:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Overrated; Gerrard, Ibrohamovic, Gerrard, Hargreaves, Gerrard, most Irish players, cannavarro, gerrard

Underrated; Iniesta, Gallas, Nesta, Deco,

steve or paul gerrard?

**Seano** · 29/11/2007, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

Overrated : Christiano Ronaldo, Essien, Hargreaves, Sagna, Milner, Nakata.

Underrated: Malbranque, Marcos Paulo Alves, Gianluca Pessotto, Candela.

I dont particulary like him, but how can you say Ronaldo?, I think some people are including players that they don't like

**osarusan** · 29/11/2007, 3:48 PM

He looks great against poor opposition , but I've never seen him have a top-class performance when it was really needed.

**jebus** · 29/11/2007, 5:25 PM

Over rated: Rooney, Lampard, Rio, Gattuso, McGeady, Ibrahimovich, Adriano, Gerrard, Stephen Hunt

Under rated: Xabi Alonso, Robinho, Kilbane, Pirlo, Proper Ronaldo, Forlan

Just Right: Kaka, Messi and Cesc, the three best players in the world

**Lim till i die** · 29/11/2007, 6:01 PM

MASSIVELY Overrated: Captain Stevie Courageous
Underrated: The rest of that Liverpool midfield tbh.

Overrated: Terry, Ronaldo (The Portugese one), Ferdinand, Carrick, Lampard, Rooney (Assuming anyone still rates him)

Literally dozens more I might go through later.

Also a special mention to the vast majority of the Irish squad and anyone in a Celtic shirt who has ever beaten a player

**mr miyagi** · 30/11/2007, 12:24 PM

Overrated : Rooney ,Ronaldo, Rio Ferdinand, Gerrard, Lampard, Ibrahimovic...

Underrated : Xabi Alonso, Diego, Shinji Ono, Riquelme, Mascherano, Crouch, Torsten Frings, Aiden McGeady..

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head..

**Dodge** · 30/11/2007, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by mr miyagi

Underrated : Riquelme

he's the only player I forgot to include. Except I was going to have him as overrated. Fecking waster who has never come close to performing well in big games.

**ifk101** · 30/11/2007, 12:54 PM

Overrated : Ronaldinho (lazy, overweight, has the talent to be much better), Puyol (get a haircut!), Richard Dunne (the defender that has no ball control)

Underrated : Iniesta (outstanding midget of a player), Robinho (beginning to show his class), Zlatan Ibra. (world-class).

**mr miyagi** · 30/11/2007, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

he's the only player I forgot to include. Except I was going to have him as overrated. Fecking waster who has never come close to performing well in big games.

Riquelme is an unbelievable player. His goalscoring and assist record should speak for themselves.
What do you expect him to do ?? Take on defences ala Kaka or Messi ??
He's a great passer of the ball and there is no better set piece taker...

What big games are you talking about ??Arsenal in the Champions League is the only one I can think of...You have to remember he played for a Villarreal team that were frequently in the bottom half of La Liga before he came...

He was great at the World Cup...so you can't be talking about Argentina...

**Dodge** · 30/11/2007, 1:13 PM

Originally Posted by mr miyagi

What big games are you talking about ??Arsenal in the Champions League is the only one I can think of...You have to remember he played for a Villarreal team that were frequently in the bottom half of La Liga before he came...

And they were bottom half of La Liga before Diego Forlan came too

He was great at the World Cup...so you can't be talking about Argentina...

He was great in the meaningless group stages, and completely missing when they were knocked out.

He failed hugely at Barcelona as he couldn't handle the pressure. He was sacked by Villareal for not being bothered. He wasn't picked for Argentina for years.

An undoubted talent certainly. On his day he's as good as they get. But he'll never perform consistently well for a top european side and therefore can't be classed as a world great.

**mr miyagi** · 30/11/2007, 1:41 PM

Argentina were knocked out in penalties by Germany...Riquelme wasn't even on the pitch at that stage...but he did supply the cross for Argentina's goal.
And btw...I wouldn't call the group stages meaningless when they were in a group with Holland, Serbia & Montenegro and Ivory Coast

He failed at Barcelona because he was rarely played, and when he was it was as a winger...

**ifk101** · 30/11/2007, 1:59 PM

Riquelme needs to be "the big fish in a small pool" to play well - he needs to feel secure that he's the team's "main man".

He's a talented player but, as Dodge said, when the pressure is on he invariably goes missing.

**Dodge** · 30/11/2007, 2:03 PM

Originally Posted by mr miyagi

He failed at Barcelona because he was rarely played, and when he was it was as a winger...

he played 30 league games in his only season there.

And why wasn't he on the pitch when they were knocked out? because he was anonymous when he was there...

**galwayhoop** · 30/11/2007, 2:30 PM

Over Rated: Thierry Henry

**DmanDmythDledge** · 30/11/2007, 3:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

He failed hugely at Barcelona as he couldn't handle the pressure.

The pressure of having his brother kidnapped back in Argentina and having to negoiate with the kidnappers himself. Also Van Gaal said that he was a political signing and didn't want him. He wasted him on the wing. Who knows what would have happened had he not had those problems.

**eirebhoy** · 30/11/2007, 4:49 PM

Originally Posted by ifk101

He's a talented player but, as Dodge said, when the pressure is on he invariably goes missing.

I don't think it's a case of going missing. Like all players of his type, there's not a lot he can do if his team haven't got the ball. When Argentina have the better of the game he'll usually be the centre of everything.

Ledley King would be one of the most overrated players I can think of.

**mr miyagi** · 30/11/2007, 6:59 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

The pressure of having his brother kidnapped back in Argentina and having to negoiate with the kidnappers himself. Also Van Gaal said that he was a political signing and didn't want him. He wasted him on the wing. Who knows what would have happened had he not had those problems.

Forgot about that...paid the ransom himself...