Setanta Cup Draw

**iceman** · 03/12/2007, 5:08 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Good work Iceman.

Is it on live....?

Its not on the Setanta TV listings , there is "Setanta Sports Extra" listed for that time. I'll email Setanta again and see what comes back.

**David** · 06/12/2007, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

Its not on the Setanta TV listings , there is "Setanta Sports Extra" listed for that time. I'll email Setanta again and see what comes back.

Any word? Even confirmation that it is taking place?

**Danny** · 06/12/2007, 1:00 PM

post on the pats mb says its provisionally set for the 14th jan but that mite change....

**The Good Son** · 06/12/2007, 1:00 PM

Seemingly it has been put back to January, according to a post on the CCFC forum.

**Mr_Parker** · 07/12/2007, 8:34 AM

From the Belfast Telegraph today...

Setanta split

Major change in All-Ireland competition

Friday, December 07, 2007
By Stuart McKinley
The Setanta Sports Cup is to undergo a major overhaul ahead of next year's competition.

And at the heart of the matter is the sponsor's struggle to come up with suitable fixture dates for the all-Ireland tournament because of the busier than ever schedule on their subscription channel.
An original proposal to condense the competition into a six-week period at the end of May has been scrapped after objections from Carnegie Premier League clubs and that has thrown plans into chaos.
Organisers are now suggesting that the tournament be split, playing half of it in the spring, when Irish League sides are coming to the end of their season and the teams south of the border are beginning theirs.
After a summer break for European games, the Setanta Sports Cup will then kick-off again in August - shortly after the Irish League campaign starts - with the final being played towards the end of September.
Previously games have been televised live mostly on Mondays - with a few Tuesday games.
Monday nights are now ruled out though as that is one of the slots Setanta uses to show live Barclays Premier League games under it's new multi-million pound agreement with the FA and it is the sponsor's competition that will suffer most.
With both leagues playing at different times of the year and live television slots now at a premium there is little room for manoeuvre and clubs may have to accept the changes if they are to compete.
In addition to the changes clubs are asking for a bigger share of the pot when it comes to being live on television.
Next year is the final season of the original sponsorship deal, signed in 2004 and when the extra revenue is pumped into the competition in 2009 the teams whose games are screened live want a bigger share.
Seven of Linfield's eight games last year were shown live, but they received no extra cash and losing semi-finalists also want a reward for getting out of the group.
The competing clubs for the 2008 competition are now known, with the Irish League being represented by Cliftonville, Dungannon Swifts, Glentoran and Linfield, who will be up against Bohemians, Cork City, Derry City and holders Drogheda United.
The winners of tomorrow's CIS Insurance Cup final between Crusaders and Linfield will qualify for the 2009 competition.

**Danny** · 07/12/2007, 9:12 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

The competing clubs for the 2008 competition are now known, with the Irish League being represented by Cliftonville, Dungannon Swifts, Glentoran and Linfield, who will be up against Bohemians, Cork City, Derry City and holders Drogheda United. The winners of tomorrow's CIS Insurance Cup final between Crusaders and Linfield will qualify for the 2009 competition.[/I]

eh, anyone spot anything wrong there

**Flexy** · 07/12/2007, 9:32 AM

Originally Posted by Danny

eh, anyone spot anything wrong there

Because Pats got in thru the back door last year they have been expelled from this yrs tournament, and bohs allowed in instead

**Soper** · 07/12/2007, 9:36 AM

Invitational competition

**OneRedArmy** · 07/12/2007, 9:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

From the Belfast Telegraph today...

Setanta split

Major change in All-Ireland competition

Friday, December 07, 2007
By Stuart McKinley
The Setanta Sports Cup is to undergo a major overhaul ahead of next year's competition.

And at the heart of the matter is the sponsor's struggle to come up with suitable fixture dates for the all-Ireland tournament because of the busier than ever schedule on their subscription channel.
An original proposal to condense the competition into a six-week period at the end of May has been scrapped after objections from Carnegie Premier League clubs and that has thrown plans into chaos.
Organisers are now suggesting that the tournament be split, playing half of it in the spring, when Irish League sides are coming to the end of their season and the teams south of the border are beginning theirs.
After a summer break for European games, the Setanta Sports Cup will then kick-off again in August - shortly after the Irish League campaign starts - with the final being played towards the end of September.
Previously games have been televised live mostly on Mondays - with a few Tuesday games.
Monday nights are now ruled out though as that is one of the slots Setanta uses to show live Barclays Premier League games under it's new multi-million pound agreement with the FA and it is the sponsor's competition that will suffer most.
With both leagues playing at different times of the year and live television slots now at a premium there is little room for manoeuvre and clubs may have to accept the changes if they are to compete.
In addition to the changes clubs are asking for a bigger share of the pot when it comes to being live on television.
Next year is the final season of the original sponsorship deal, signed in 2004 and when the extra revenue is pumped into the competition in 2009 the teams whose games are screened live want a bigger share.
Seven of Linfield's eight games last year were shown live, but they received no extra cash and losing semi-finalists also want a reward for getting out of the group.
The competing clubs for the 2008 competition are now known, with the Irish League being represented by Cliftonville, Dungannon Swifts, Glentoran and Linfield, who will be up against Bohemians, Cork City, Derry City and holders Drogheda United.
The winners of tomorrow's CIS Insurance Cup final between Crusaders and Linfield will qualify for the 2009 competition.

Setanta Cup RIP.

Now they have the Premiership they don't need Irish football.

Plays right into the hands of those working in the background to set up the breakaway league.

**Mr A** · 07/12/2007, 10:09 AM

Time to scrap both league cup and combine them into an all-Ireland cup competition methinks. Top 16 from each league, first round guarantees a North V South tie, open draw after that.

**OneRedArmy** · 07/12/2007, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Time to scrap both league cup and combine them into an all-Ireland cup competition methinks. Top 16 from each league, first round guarantees a North V South tie, open draw after that.

I think current developments may overtake this.

**dcfcsteve** · 09/12/2007, 2:37 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Setanta Cup RIP.

Now they have the Premiership they don't need Irish football.

Plays right into the hands of those working in the background to set up the breakaway league.

The breakaway plans need a key sponsor to pump money into the proposal to make it fly though. And serious TV coverage as well, I would suggest.

Is there a queue of people looking to throw money at Irish football - even on an all-island basis ?

**Block G Raptor** · 11/12/2007, 11:36 AM

CAn someone confirm that Boh's being mentioned above is a mis-print or are we actually in this thing this year?

**Dodge** · 11/12/2007, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

CAn someone confirm that Boh's being mentioned above is a mis-print or are we actually in this thing this year?

LOL

**Block G Raptor** · 11/12/2007, 11:49 AM

God Damn it Dodge I'm serious are pat's in it or what

**dcfcsteve** · 11/12/2007, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

God Damn it Dodge I'm serious are pat's in it or what

There's always hope Block G......!

I wonder if the messing around with Setanta draw is related to the Indo story ?

If there's an all-island announcement due in January, the Setanta Cup may either change format to act as a precursor to that or, if Setanta aren't involved, disappear totally.

**TonyD** · 11/12/2007, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

God Damn it Dodge I'm serious are pat's in it or what

Of course we are. Setanta love us. Special invite and all last year

**Danny** · 11/12/2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

God Damn it Dodge I'm serious are pat's in it or what

Why would boez be in it ???

**Block G Raptor** · 11/12/2007, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danny

Why would boez be in it ???

I don't know I thought maybe something had gone wrong at pats or something. I wasn't confident that it was anymore than a mis-print in the article above but just wanted it confirmed is all

**Flume** · 11/12/2007, 4:29 PM

Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

I don't know I thought maybe something had gone wrong at pats or something. I wasn't confident that it was anymore than a mis-print in the article above but just wanted it confirmed is all

Nothing goes wrong at pats.

Setanta's contract is up until 2009, is that correct? I doubt there will be an extension to that once its up.

Time for the sky sports cup.....