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    Quote Originally Posted by sylvo View Post
    Couldn't agree more me old mucker, I thought Cardiff on that saturday afternoon was like all the chav towns outside London on a saturday night, can't say I was sorry to be on a bus at 5.30 after the match out of there and up to London, and agree can't see what the other teams will really get out of playing us end of season time also. Nobodys really going to get much out of it.

    How you getting on, was looking out for you in Cardiff, but have to say was on a very quick visit there.
    Alright Sylvo, I see you don't do pms or e mails so keeping well myself. Totally agree with you on Cardiff and I could not have put it better in reference to a chav town. Hope to see you over the course of the next qualifiers or maybe a nice away friendly in Spring next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eekers View Post
    play all the games in one weekend in the isle of man
    The craic would be ninety at least!

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    From today's Indo - 3rd July 2008

    "Chief executive John Delaney yesterday also confirmed that plans to host a Four Nations tournament between the Republic, Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland in 2011 may still be in a position to go ahead and may form part of the protracted sale of corporate packages in Lansdowne Road.

    He also added that following discussions at Euro 2008 with Michel Platini, he remained "confident" that Lansdowne Road would be hosting the 2012 UEFA Cup final, although he stressed that this would not be included in any corporate packages".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    From today's Indo - 3rd July 2008

    "Chief executive John Delaney yesterday also confirmed that plans to host a Four Nations tournament between the Republic, Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland in 2011 may still be in a position to go ahead and may form part of the protracted sale of corporate packages in Lansdowne Road.

    He also added that following discussions at Euro 2008 with Michel Platini, he remained "confident" that Lansdowne Road would be hosting the 2012 UEFA Cup final, although he stressed that this would not be included in any corporate packages".
    We had been looking for the 2011 UEFA Cup Final.

    2012 is more realistic anyway. I assume 2012 and 2013 will be given out in 2010. At that stage Lansdowne Road will be open and thus no risk for UEFA. To give us 2011 would be a risk - not as big as giving Euro2012 to Poland/Ukraine but still a risk.

    I really hope JD is right about the funding for Lansdowne Road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    From today's Indo - 3rd July 2008

    "Chief executive John Delaney yesterday also confirmed that plans to host a Four Nations tournament between the Republic, Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland in 2011 may still be in a position to go ahead and may form part of the protracted sale of corporate packages in Lansdowne Road.

    He also added that following discussions at Euro 2008 with Michel Platini, he remained "confident" that Lansdowne Road would be hosting the 2012 UEFA Cup final, although he stressed that this would not be included in any corporate packages".
    Jesus, that is likely to swing any waverer's

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    Hi Guys,

    I am quiet worried about the Four Associations Tournament/Celtic Cup in 2011.

    I wonder when we are playing the North what kind of a reception will Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson and Darren Gibson get?

    Not to mention if Daniel Devine, Daniel Kearns, Shane McEleney, Paddy McEleney, Darren McCauley are first teamers as well!

    It also makes me think what kind of a reception will McGeady and McCarthy get from the Scottish Fans?

    I am worried about this tournament. There could be a lot of trouble.

    To be honest we could have done well without it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckydee View Post
    I wonder when we are playing the North what kind of a reception will Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson and Darren Gibson get?

    Not to mention if Daniel Devine, Daniel Kearns, Shane McEleney, Paddy McEleney, Darren McCauley are first teamers as well!
    Who knows, but if they get the kind of reception you fear, that kind of reception that will just serve to drive even more south. If an element of their fans cause trouble, they'll reap the rewards.

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    I'd be more worried about our "fans" scratching their heads to identify the Rangers players to boo accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifk101 View Post
    I'd be more worried about our "fans" scratching their heads to identify the Rangers players to boo accordingly.
    when was the last time that happened?
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    By and large (albeit we're talking greater numbers for the Celtic Cup) the Setanta cup games between the NI and ROI teams have passed by without much hassle and have been welcomed by both parties involved. I think we're more likely to hear NI fans booing the likes of O'Dea and McGeady than Duffy, Gibson. There is always a danger of trouble at these types of events but with the exception of the inevitable few drunken isolated incidences, I would hope the games would pass by without much concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    when was the last time that happened?
    I'm pretty sure this happened in one of the games in Croke Park. Except the fans kept on booing the wrong player.

    Similar to how James McArthur was getting booed while playing for Hamilton because the scumbags didn't know if it was him or James McCarthy that had declared for Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb View Post
    I'm pretty sure this happened in one of the games in Croke Park. Except the fans kept on booing the wrong player.
    You sure? I was at every game at Croke Park, and I don't remember any opposition player being booed because of the club they played for.

    You sure you're not confusing it with Peter Madsen being booed at Lansdowne when he was introduced as Peter Lovenkrands? When the correction was made over the tannoy, his touch was cheered, and then Lovenkrands did come on later
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    Yeah, pretty sure the "Lovenkrads" one was the last time alright. Another in the long line of footballing embarrassments in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    when was the last time that happened?
    Its happened since the last time there's been trouble between Irish, Scottish and Welsh football fans in fairness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckydee View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I am quiet worried about the Four Associations Tournament/Celtic Cup in 2011.

    I wonder when we are playing the North what kind of a reception will Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson and Darren Gibson get?

    Not to mention if Daniel Devine, Daniel Kearns, Shane McEleney, Paddy McEleney, Darren McCauley are first teamers as well!

    It also makes me think what kind of a reception will McGeady and McCarthy get from the Scottish Fans?

    I am worried about this tournament. There could be a lot of trouble.

    To be honest we could have done well without it
    I am not sure there is much in this competition for any of the teams taking part. I am afraid that its going to be more trouble than its worth. I can see plenty of downsides and very few upsides.

    I don't like being pessimictic about it but sometimes a spade is a spade !

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    Why would anyone want to play in glorified 'home' internationals v.three teams, representing 'countries', none of which exist in reality???

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    what a fuss over nothing. if mccarthy and mcgeady cant, and i've no reason to believe they cant, deal with a bit of abuse from another teams fans then they are in the wrong profession. why would this event attract any more trouble, ie. none, than when wales, scotland and the north have played here before recently?

    my last memory of the scots in lansdowne is of about 5,000 of them on the north terrace singing the whole way through the match and putting us to shame on our own patch. no trouble from them whatsoever

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    I still think its a good idea to have these games. Personally Id have much more interest in them than playing friendlies against the likes of Paraguay and Algeria
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    what a fuss over nothing. if mccarthy and mcgeady cant, and i've no reason to believe they cant, deal with a bit of abuse from another teams fans then they are in the wrong profession. why would this event attract any more trouble, ie. none, than when wales, scotland and the north have played here before recently?

    my last memory of the scots in lansdowne is of about 5,000 of them on the north terrace singing the whole way through the match and putting us to shame on our own patch. no trouble from them whatsoever
    I suspect the Norths lads will give us a singing lesson or two as well. It's a fixture that has potential to attract a gob****e element on both sides -but in general terms their support is an absolute credit to them.
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    Personally I think that they (the NI and Scottish born lads) will receive a pretty terrible reception.

    The reason that I see this is because the last few times that we have played these teams there was no issue regarding players having (according to those supporters anyway) have ‘turned their back’ on their ‘home’ country.

    The last time that we played Scotland (12-Feb-03) there was not going to be possibly two Scottish players lining up for Ireland who, in choosing to represent the republic, caused a huge uproar in their native Scotland. Now it is possible that I missed something and there was a Scottish born player on the field that day but certainly not a player who have had the following said about him/them because they declared for us:

    1. http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/in...carthy-thread/

    2. http://i36.tinypic.com/2igg54z.jpg - Incidentally while I am posting this, this was the comeback article - http://i36.tinypic.com/rifdxk.jpg


    The last time that we played Northern Ireland (29-May-99) – Ditto. Pop to OWC to see the links there. It will put shivers down your spine.

    As you can see there is a BIG difference between those matches then, and the upcoming matches now.

    Do you see what I am getting at?

    The point that I am trying make and get across here is that the circumstances have changed since we last played these teams.
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