Jack Charlton post Ireland

[OwlsFan]

Yeah, remember it well, there was uproar when the 4 match ban was announced, even 2 was harsh. The injury was an awful shame though, would've loved to have seen him get at least one game at a major championships.

I honestly think had we held on against Holland we could have won that tournament even without the 3 players you mention. Holland would have been out, themselves and Russia contested the final and we battered Russia in our gamne against them despite the 1-1 scoreline. McGraths header against Holland and Aldo not getting the rebound, think that moment us burnt onto my brain along with that poxy offside goal they got!

Every tournament we qualified for, one or more of our best players were unavailable, mostly due to injuries.

I am not sure we could have won Euro 88. The one I think we could have won or done well in was Euro 92. The team was at its peak but failed to qualify by a whisker. Oh, that Houghton miss at Wembley in the last few minutes.

[citizenerased]

Isnt Jack not working in Harry Ramsdens now, presiding over the famous 'Harrys Challenge'

[Drumcondra 69er]

Every tournament we qualified for, one or more of our best players were unavailable, mostly due to injuries.

I am not sure we could have won Euro 88. The one I thing we could have won or done well in was Euro 92. The team was at its peak but failed to qualify by a whisker. Oh, that Houghton miss at Wembley in the last few minutes.

Yep, have always thought that myself. Not to mention O'Leary's faffing about with the ball instead of booting it to the stands last 10 minutes away to Poland. We'd have been in the semis in Euro 88, win that and we'd have played Russia in the final, anything could have happened.

[stojkovic]

Yes Euro92 was our 'golden generation'.

Always felt that had we qualified, we could have won it.

Remember throwing something at the television when that big eared c*nt Lineker scored. I was living in London and had to watch their game.

A few months later I was sitting in Graham Taylor's office at Lancaster Gate and I wanted to defecate it, Bobby Sands style. Would have lost my job though.

[fergalr]

The one I think we could have won or done well in was Euro 92. The team was at its peak but failed to qualify by a whisker. Oh, that Houghton miss at Wembley in the last few minutes.

Great point. Charlton took us on an upward curve through 88 and 90 and it reached its peak with the 4-5-1 formation towards the end of the 92 qualifying campaign. We battered England, Poland and Turkey away and were just really unlucky to only win one of those three games.

We started going downhill midway through the next campaign and just scraped into the 94 WC. By the the time of the infamous 96 qualifiers the wheels were off the wagon (as alluded to in many previous posts).

My memories of his last game are us chasing Dutch shadows with 4 full backs on the pitch and at the final whistle a bemused Charlton saluting the Irish kop waving a Dutch flag.

[as_i_say]

Think it was Stoger and not Polster who scored the hattrick against us in Vienna

[Drumcondra 69er]

Great point. Charlton took us on an upward curve through 88 and 90 and it reached its peak with the 4-5-1 formation towards the end of the 92 qualifying campaign. We battered England, Poland and Turkey away and were just really unlucky to only win one of those three games.

We started going downhill midway through the next campaign and just scraped into the 94 WC. By the the time of the infamous 96 qualifiers the wheels were off the wagon (as alluded to in many previous posts).

My memories of his last game are us chasing Dutch shadows with 4 full backs on the pitch and at the final whistle a bemused Charlton saluting the Irish kop waving a Dutch flag.

In fairness we started the Euro 96 qualifiers very well, 4-0 against the North and we'd also beaten Portugal at home. It was the home draw against teh North that the wheels really started coming off.

And it was an Irish flag, it was just rolled up and the orange section was the only bit showing!

[Drumcondra 69er]

Think it was Stoger and not Polster who scored the hattrick against us in Vienna

True, Polster got 2 at Lansdowne. Think he got 11 that campaign and still wasn't top scorer as Suker got the record that Healy just broke with 12.

[Dr. Ogba]

I am not sure we could have won Euro 88. The one I think we could have won or done well in was Euro 92. The team was at its peak but failed to qualify by a whisker. Oh, that Houghton miss at Wembley in the last few minutes.

yeah Euro 92 was a real low alright....i remember watching us throw away that 2 goal lead in Poland...its gas that it was unthinkable for an Irish team to do that at the time but its second nature to us now!!

[stojkovic]

yeah Euro 92 was a real low alright....i remember watching us throw away that 2 goal lead in Poland...its gas that it was unthinkable for an Irish team to do that at the time but its second nature to us now!!

Charlton's infamous quote after the game "..a draw is better than a win.."

He was alluding to the fact that Poland had something to play for against England the following month.

Remember back in those days you only played SIX matches not twelve. SO one slip up and you were fcuked. And only one qualified.

We slipped up against the Poles at home (0-0).

[Deckydee]

Jackie Charlton, Eoin Hand, Johnny Giles Ireland, Mick McCarthy Steve Stuanton, Cascarioino!

I love that song

[stojkovic]

Jackie Charlton, Eoin Hand, Johnny Giles Ireland, Mick McCarthy Steve Stuanton, Cascarioino!

I love that song

Who's the odd one out.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

[paul_oshea]

does houghton not come at the end there?! i never knew stephen ireland played then....or was that just the random word thrown in to make it sound good

[Lionel Ritchie]

In fairness we started the Euro 96 qualifiers very well, 4-0 against the North and we'd also beaten Portugal at home. It was the home draw against teh North that the wheels really started coming off.

Chronology is wrong. We drew with NI in March and were possibly lucky to hold on because we didn't press on after the first goal. I still believe a better, leaner, non-hippo-trying-to-fly-resembling goalkeeper than Kelly would've kept Dowies header out too. But that was incidental anyway as the whole team was sitting back.

We then beat Portugal 1-0 in April, the last really good performance of the Charlton era. The wheels came off in late May, early June when we went to Liechtenstein and Limerick.

[Drumcondra 69er]

Chronology is wrong. We drew with NI in March and were possibly lucky to hold on because we didn't press on after the first goal. I still believe a better, leaner, non-hippo-trying-to-fly-resembling goalkeeper than Kelly would've kept Dowies header out too. But that was incidental anyway as the whole team was sitting back.

We then beat Portugal 1-0 in April, the last really good performance of the Charlton era. The wheels came off in late May, early June when we went to Liechtenstein and Limerick.

Sorry, you're right, was heading to Oz around then, Portugal was my last game of that campaign, never saw Lichtenstein, still haven't seen it to this day, want to keep it that way! Same with the Austria home game.

[viagogo]

yeah Euro 92 was a real low alright....i remember watching us throw away that 2 goal lead in Poland...its gas that it was unthinkable for an Irish team to do that at the time but its second nature to us now!!

Wasnt this George Hamiltons fault. Think I remember him saying when Ireland were 3-1 up that there is no way Ireland would leave in two goals followed by "Oh Danger here"

[CollegeTillIDie]

Every tournament we qualified for, one or more of our best players were unavailable, mostly due to injuries.

......The one I think we could have won or done well in was Euro 92. The team was at its peak but failed to qualify by a whisker. Oh, that Houghton miss at Wembley in the last few minutes.

No Dave O'Leary giving the ball away twice once when we were 3-1 ahead the next time when we were 3-2 ahead, both of which led to Polish goals and a 3-3 away to them was where the REAL damage was done!

[pineapple stu]

I still believe a better, leaner, non-hippo-trying-to-fly-resembling goalkeeper than Kelly would've kept Dowies header out too.

Bit harsh on Kelly - quality keeper, and that was the first international goal he'd conceded in something like his fifth game for us.

We...just scraped into the 94 WC.

Bit harsh also - we did knock out the reigning European champions, were robbed in Spain and got 12 points from six games against the minnows, which is a lot more impressive than it sounds, especially when you consider we had to travel to three countries very recently out of communism and very difficult places to visit.

[sullanefc]

Jackie Charlton, Eoin Hand, Johnny Giles Ireland, Mick McCarthy Steve Stuanton, Cascarioino!

I love that song

We're going to start a fire, right. I would love to get my hands on that song. Can't download or buy it anywhere. Any tips??

[eekers]

Jackie Charlton, Eoin Hand
Johnny Giles, Ireland
Mick McCarthy, Stephen Staunton
Cascarino
Tony Galvin, Niall Quinn
Packie doesn't let em in
North of Ireland
South of Ireland
Only one can go

this has been used before by the fai to appoint managers.

"i cant think of anyone lets have a look at the auld song?"
"mcCarthy is next in line"

"here john will we use the the old song again now that we've sacked kerr, i mean it got us mick and he did alright"
"but stan is next on the song, he's laying cones at walsall and i've promised a world class management team"
"use the song john"
"hello can get the number for walsall football club? no not warsaw, walsall with an 'l'?"