Top 3 Moaning Managers

[OwlsFan]

My favourite has to be Graham Taylor. Interesting to see the assistant referee on the line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DHO8p0ce38

[OwlsFan]

Alex Ferguson says the system for assessing referees needs to be overhauled after United were denied a penalty against Portsmouth.

Cristiano Ronaldo was fouled by Sylvain Distin in the penalty area in the seventh minute, but referee Martin Atkinson waved play on.

Sir Alex told MUTV: “It’s absolutely ridiculous. I just cannot explain that decision. Managers get sacked on the basis of things like that. And he’s going to referee a game next week? It’s ridiculous.”

Atkinson later sent off United's substitute goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak when arguably he shouldn’t have, because Anderson and Wayne Rooney were covering when the Pole felled Portsmouth striker Milan Baros. Pompey's Sulley Muntari scored the resulting penalty past emergency keeper Rio Ferdinand to knock the Reds out of the cup.

“We’re out and you could look at a lot of things,” Sir Alex added. “We missed a lot of chances for one, but the refereeing performance… Keith Hackett (of Match Officials Board) has got a lot to answer for. He’s not doing his job properly.

“He should be assessed like everyone else. Martin Atkinson will referee next week, no problem. But his performance today should not be accepted in our game. I agree with Sepp Blatter, the standards here as opposed to the Continent is behind Europe. It’s a big problem.”

[superfrank]

I agree with Sepp Blatter, the standards here as opposed to the Continent is behind Europe. It’s a big problem.”

One game:

Napoli 3-1 Juve earlier this season.

[Rovers fan]

After fergie of course I think dave o'leary has to be the worst. When he was with villa in every post match interview after a defeat he blamed the ref and always said that they were the better side and deserved to win. Thanks be to god he is out of management at the moment.

[oldyouth]

Neil Warnock, 'nuff said

[OwlsFan]

Hats off to Gareth Southgate. True his team were dreadful but there was a foul leading up to the first Cardiff goal and the interviewer asked him about it. Southgate said it didn't matter. Cardiff were the better team. It was his responsibility and he had no excuses. Unbelievably honest and refreshing.

Needless to say I expected Arsene Whinger to blame the pitch for the poor show against Wigan and I wasn't disappointed.

[OwlsFan]

I don't often agree with John Giles but his attack on Ferguson's sour grapes and perpetual moaning about referees after they lose was well justified. If it had been a Chelsea player who had handled the ball and a peno not given to Man U, Ferguson would have been outraged. It was clearly a peno but no, Ferguson has to moan and complain. He and Wenger just do my head in when they lose a game.

Take it on the chin and move on.

[superfrank]

Yeah Ferguie was moaning again and without reason but I also love it when something goes wrong for Man U and the camera switches to Fergie's reddened face going ballistic.

[micls]

ballack wrestling with ronaldo was much more a penalty than the handball.

The handball was a penalty. Much more or much less doesnt come into it. Its a penalty regardless of whether he screwed up another decision or not.

What annoyed me was Ferguson mentionong over and over 'in a big game like this, giving a penalty like that in a big game like this.'. The rules are the rules regardless of how important the game is to you Alex

[superfrank]

ballack wrestling with ronaldo was much more a penalty than the handball.

You give that, you give five a game, every game.

I don't know how true this is but apparently, think BBC said it, that was the first penalty awarded against Man U this season Surprise, surprise. Reminds me of this joke.

Cristiano is 6ft tall and very strong and fast. How much pressure need be applied to make him tumble over in the opponents penalty area? (Note: Answers must be in lbs per square inch. However, answers such as, 'However much pressure is applied by Ferguson to referees' are accepted.)

[DmanDmythDledge]

You give that, you give five a game, every game.

That was a lot worse than what usually goes on in the box. And if referees start to give penalties for that all the time you won't see it happen very often.

[superfrank]

That was a lot worse than what usually goes on in the box. And if referees start to give penalties for that all the time you won't see it happen very often.

It happens every game. I still don't believe penalties should be given for it. It was pushing from both sides. Ballack wrapped his arm around Ronaldo first but Ronaldo returned the favour, iirc.

[jmurphyc]

It happens every game. I still don't believe penalties should be given for it. It was pushing from both sides. Ballack wrapped his arm around Ronaldo first but Ronaldo returned the favour, iirc.

I've only seen it once so far but when they were talking about it on MOTD and talking about controversial decisions I thought it was in United's penalty area as I thought Ronaldo was fouling Ballack. Perhaps I'll revise my opinion when viewing it again but how some people thought that it was more a penalty than the handball I'll never understand.

Ferguson clearly thinks he'll win the last two games because his team selection suggested that he wasn't particularly bothered about losing yesterday.

[superfrank]

Ferguson clearly thinks he'll win the last two games because his team selection suggested that he wasn't particularly bothered about losing yesterday.

This is actually interesting. Fergie's whinging about "the peno that never was" and "the peno that shouldn't have been" has taken the focus away from how poorly Man U played yesterday and his bizarre selections.

[DmanDmythDledge]

It happens every game.

It doesn't. There is always pushing and tugging in the box but rarely do you see a player wrapping his arm around an attacker like that.

It was pushing from both sides. Ballack wrapped his arm around Ronaldo first but Ronaldo returned the favour, iirc.

Returned the favour? FFS, he was trying to shrug Ballack off him. He's hardly going to leave him hang out of him.

[shakermaker1982]

It was the first penalty Man Utd have conceded in the league. They have had penalties go against em like Portsmouth in the FA Cup and Roma in the CL which weren't penalties.

The one team that could complain most this season about decisions go against them this season is Sunderland. To be fair to Keane he could have gone ape like Fergie and Wenger would but on the whole he has kept calm.

Fergie, Mourinho and Wenger blame ref's because it takes attention away from their teams performance. The focus and media attention is less about the team and more about the ref's so called ineptitude. Man Utd were poor in the first half yesterday but instead the media are more bothered about Queroz having a rant. Clever, unsporting or downright disgraceful? Depends if your a supporter I suppose of the teams I suppose!!!It seems to work though because they are all winners.

I for one would leave to see more penalties given in the box for wrestling. I'd also like to see more cards for players giving cheek and abuse to the ref and linesman. I thought Owen Hargreaves was a disgrace yesterday and this is coming from a Man Utd follower. He should have walked.

[superfrank]

Alan Green made a very good point yesterday.

Everyone complains about players surrounding the ref and begging for this and that. But people should look at the managers first. Players will pick up on what their managers do.

Fergie regularly blows the lid when he doesn't like a decision. Grant hardly ever displays any emotion, at all. So for Chelsea, the blame lies with the players but for Man U the blame should lie with the manager.

[OwlsFan]

But it's all so stupid anyway. The refs never change their minds. I suppose the theory is if they make it so uncomfortable for the referee in awarding a decision against them, he'll think twice the next time but I doubt if it works.

[Stevo Da Gull]

But it's all so stupid anyway. The refs never change their minds. I suppose the theory is if they make it so uncomfortable for the referee in awarding a decision against them, he'll think twice the next time but I doubt if it works.

Well I reckon that some refs can be bullied, but it really shouldn't happen to top refs (unfortunately a couple of Premiership refs are not top refs).
If a Premiership player was a 100% sure that the ref had made the wrong decision why not just say ``give me a ring on Monday after you see it on the TV yeah?`` or something like that rather than waste so much time, and if a ref booked you for that he would be a right jackass. I can understand players having a go in certain situations but Arsenal, Chelsea and United seem to do it all the time (which actually makes it less convincing when they have good cause for it).