Full time vs part time

**Dodge** · 27/11/2007, 2:41 PM

Originally Posted by Maroon 7

Yes but we were coming up with a squad of first division footballers. They may have been full-time last season but many of them were not premier division standard. Most of those have now been let go so hopefully we can replace them with genuinely premier division quality players and improve.

Same could be said of Pats

**gufct** · 27/11/2007, 2:48 PM

dont think so Dodge .

**Drogman.** · 27/11/2007, 2:51 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Its simply a reflection of Paul Doolins poor management ability.

FFS! This crap amazes me all the time on this forum. For a manager to bring a team from the brink of relegation (again) to be the top club in the country in the space of 4 years is a great achiievement, with or without money.

Money will always help, but it's the manager who has to recruit the right players and that's what Doolo has done over the years.

We'll be up there again next year, I've no doubt. This is the start of something big for us.

**Dodge** · 27/11/2007, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

dont think so Dodge .

Seriously, a lot of our players in 2006 weren't premier standard

**Macy** · 27/11/2007, 2:55 PM

in all fairness Drogman, with the expense and size of squad, if hadn't won it last year he should've resigned in shame! Fair play on winning it and all that, but get bloody real.

**Dodge** · 27/11/2007, 2:59 PM

Originally Posted by Drogman.

For a manager to bring a team from the brink of relegation (again) to be the top club in the country in the space of 4 years is a great achiievement, with or without money.

its better achievement without money though

**Drogman.** · 27/11/2007, 4:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

its better achievement without money though

Yeah but who's ever achieved anything without money? And I mean winning the league not any of the cups.

**Drogman.** · 27/11/2007, 4:12 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

in all fairness Drogman, with the expense and size of squad, if hadn't won it last year he should've resigned in shame! Fair play on winning it and all that, but get bloody real.

Up until this year, Shels and Bohs had a bigger wage bill, budget etc... than us, so it's a bit harsh to say that we "should" have won the league prior to this year.

I still think that even with another manager we wouldn't have been guaranteed the league. I mean if Harry McCue had that money god knows who he would have spent it on!!

**Dodge** · 27/11/2007, 4:31 PM

Originally Posted by Drogman.

Yeah but who's ever achieved anything without money? And I mean winning the league not any of the cups.

Brian Kerr won a league with a team made up of untried kids and journey pros who had been discarded. it was 17 years ago but still...

And robbie, I haven't there's anything with celebrating the win. I was just being glib about the "its the same achievement" with/without buying it.

No less enjoyable of course

**niallsparky** · 27/11/2007, 5:13 PM

Originally Posted by Drogman.

Up until this year, Shels and Bohs had a bigger wage bill, budget etc... than us, so it's a bit harsh to say that we "should" have won the league prior to this year.

Are you having a laugh? Our wage budget was nowhere near yours in the past 2 years. If you think this is the case then you're deluded. Shels though did have a bigger budget.

**Bald Student** · 27/11/2007, 5:17 PM

Originally Posted by Drogman.

FFS! This crap amazes me all the time on this forum. For a manager to bring a team from the brink of relegation (again) to be the top club in the country in the space of 4 years is a great achiievement, with or without money.

To be fair, the only thing that saved the Drogs from relegation that season was Doolo's management.

**pete** · 27/11/2007, 5:24 PM

Originally Posted by Drogman.

Up until this year, Shels and Bohs had a bigger wage bill, budget etc... than us, so it's a bit harsh to say that we "should" have won the league prior to this year.

Shels are no model to follow. I find it hard to believe Bohs had smaller budget. Doolin probably won the league on the biggest ever budget deficit. If he was a politician he would be George Bush.

The LOI will not be able to sustain 10 let alone 12 full time teams. 5-6 full time & the remainder using 50:50 day job/football system ala Scandanavia.

I wonder what club has a had a full time squad for the longest time uninterrupted? Bohs?

**Macy** · 28/11/2007, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Drogman.

Up until this year, Shels and Bohs had a bigger wage bill, budget etc... than us, so it's a bit harsh to say that we "should" have won the league prior to this year.

I didn't mention previous years. This year he had by far the biggest budget, with no other real competition in that regard with the Shels mess. If he hadn't won it, he should've gone, as he's had several seasons of being one of the top spenders and this year you were way in front in that regard - there could've been no excuses.

**OneRedArmy** · 28/11/2007, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Drogman.

Up until this year, Shels and Bohs had a bigger wage bill, budget etc... than us,

Its generally accepted that Drogs have had the biggest budget in the League over the last 3 seasons based on who they signed and the size of their squad.

That may not be true, but unless you've evidence to the contrary, thats what people will believe.

**gufct** · 28/11/2007, 12:37 PM

I doubt very much that Bohs had a bigger wage Bill than Drogheda in the last three seasons.Bohs were on their knees until the offer for Dalymount was made.