If Nord Iron has Qualified

**an_ceannaire** · 22/11/2007, 2:26 PM

tell me this so and be honest, not PC be HONEST.
If you took a straw poll of the Norn Iron fans last night ok, and asked them, if ROI qualf for the EC would you support them in your absence.....
Tell me, honeslty.....what way do you think that poll would have went.
Tell the truth.......
And then when you have reasoned that to yourself and come up with the answer, and u know deep down what it would be, tell me, in that case, why should I support them????

**dcfcsteve** · 22/11/2007, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

have a new found love for all things green white and gold

The beautiful irony of a young defender of mother Ireland such as yourself not actually knowing what colour the nation's flag is......

Article 7, Bunreacht na h�ireann.....

**an_ceannaire** · 22/11/2007, 2:28 PM

DCFC = Pedant
why not just go the whole hog and correct my spellings too

ure so cool!!!!

**jmurphyc** · 22/11/2007, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

tell me this so and be honest, not PC be HONEST.
If you took a straw poll of the Norn Iron fans last night ok, and asked them, if ROI qualf for the EC would you support them in your absence.....
Tell me, honeslty.....what way do you think that poll would have went.
Tell the truth.......
And then when you have reasoned that to yourself and come up with the answer, and u know deep down what it would be, tell me, in that case, why should I support them????

Don't really see what this has to do with this. Portugal will be the team I support for the tournament. I doubt the whole of Portugal would be primarily rooting for Ireland if we qualified and they didn't but that won't stop me from supporting them.

**dcfcsteve** · 22/11/2007, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

tell me this so and be honest, not PC be HONEST.
If you took a straw poll of the Norn Iron fans last night ok, and asked them, if ROI qualf for the EC would you support them in your absence.....
Tell me, honeslty.....what way do you think that poll would have went.
Tell the truth.......
And then when you have reasoned that to yourself and come up with the answer, and u know deep down what it would be, tell me, in that case, why should I support them????

Frankly I don't care.

I'm not obsessed about the views of others. I can make my own views and decisions on things, without needing to see if someone else has attempted to hurt my sense of national pride beforehand.

Times are changing. You are no better than those NI fans you are castigating here, as both of you refuse to move into the 21st Century....

I'd concern myself more with the attitude of a minority of the people of Liomerick to, well - pretty much everyone else on the planet if I was in your shoes...

**Green Tribe** · 22/11/2007, 2:33 PM

Can see where this thread is going, but I would also support the North had they qualified, I was born and brought up there so why not. It's my "region"
I admire the balls they showed against the likes of Spain, Denmark and Sweden and I am glad things are changing for the better.

**micls** · 22/11/2007, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

ok so the norn iron fans who still sing sectarian songs, still hate neil lennon and still regualrly belt out the billy boys are moving on

Yes they are, and Im sure EG and co could correct you on the rubbish in your post. Im sure theres still a few idiots who try the above but the majority of them chant songs in support of their team. Every coutnry has its idiots, we're far from short of them ourselves.

The NI real fans have put incredible work into weeing this out of their game and are a credit to thier team.

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

and have a new found love for all things green white and gold have they
GET OVER YOURSELVES!

Who said they have a love for green white and gold.....or even green whte and orange

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

Funny thing is, the norn iron fans i speak of, and there are many, would laugh at you!!!

So your not speaking of all of them? Is it a specific gang, or the lot of them?

Also, am I supposed to care what they think?

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

tell me this so and be honest, not PC be HONEST.
If you took a straw poll of the Norn Iron fans last night ok, and asked them, if ROI qualf for the EC would you support them in your absence.....
Tell me, honeslty.....what way do you think that poll would have went.
Tell the truth.......
And then when you have reasoned that to yourself and come up with the answer, and u know deep down what it would be, tell me, in that case, why should I support them????

I couldn't give a crap how they'd respond tbh.

No one's saying you should support them, maybe you missed that in your ranting.

but I have every righ to support them for whatever reasons I choose despite your 'pc' nonsense

**dcfcsteve** · 22/11/2007, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

DCFC = Pedant
why not just go the whole hog and correct my spellings too

ure so cool!!!!

Spelling something wrong is forgiveable and easily done.

Getting the flag of your country wrong is simply unforgiveable. Particularly in the context of a debate where you seem intent upon metaphorically wrapping yourself in that flag.

**paul_oshea** · 22/11/2007, 2:35 PM

lads its not even a generation ago that ceannaire speaks of, its a decade, so ye have to understand a lot of what he says is correct. I can see where he is coming from with this uber PC stuff.

But let me finish with this, i have many NI friends, and would have been happy for them, would i have supported them?! I am not sure, but I would have been happy for them if they won. No point in being bitter, only gets yourself worked up. Unless of course its England and that is always worth getting worked up about. Did anyone see "THE GREATEST FANS IN THE WORLD" boo them at half time- sing half way through - and then boo them again, they dont deserve to be anywhere near the Euros.

"Southerners" did wake up after 93 alright.

**micls** · 22/11/2007, 2:38 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I can see where he is coming from with this uber PC stuff.

You can see where he's coming from claiming that people he doesn't know are only supporting them to be PC?....

Tbh I couldnt care less if he spends his nights burning pictures of ther players and singing anti NI songs, its the assuming that other people are only being 'PC' by supporting them is what ****es me off.

**jmurphyc** · 22/11/2007, 2:43 PM

Originally Posted by micls

You can see where he's coming from claiming that people he doesn't know are only supporting them to be PC?....

Tbh I couldnt care less if he spends his nights burning pictures of ther players and singing anti NI songs, its the assuming that other people are only being 'PC' by supporting them is what ****es me off.

Exactly. Some people would support them, some people wouldn't. Who gives a f**k?

**paul_oshea** · 22/11/2007, 2:55 PM

Tbh I couldnt care less if he spends his nights burning pictures of ther players and singing anti NI songs, its the assuming that other people are only being 'PC' by supporting them is what ****es me off.

No, althought he didnt come across like that micls, what he was saying that those who jumped on him for saying what he was saying etc....

**OwlsFan** · 22/11/2007, 3:06 PM

Of course we should support them. They are our people, orange, green or neither, although many of them don't realise that

**an_ceannaire** · 22/11/2007, 3:09 PM

Cheers Paul, thought they were all gonna hunt me down and burn me at the stake there in a celtic shirt for crimes against peace and solidarity just for having an opinion!!!
As i said earlier, i have nothing against NI players, and nothing against Northern fans individually, but as a collective i find many of them abhorrent. I dont hate them for sectarian reasons, i refuse to support a country, many of whose fans, a very large minority, actually hate me and anyone else who dares to be born in the Republic, just because I happen to be from the South. If you hate me.....i aint gonna like you!!!

**jbyrne** · 22/11/2007, 3:10 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

ok so the norn iron fans who still sing sectarian songs, still hate neil lennon and still regualrly belt out the billy boys

this type is in the minority. anyway, the question was would you support the north if they qualified not would you support their supporters

sure some of the posts on this forum illustrate hatred towards some of our own players... john oshea anyone?

**Green Tribe** · 22/11/2007, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

Cheers Paul, thought they were all gonna hunt me down and burn me at the stake there in a celtic shirt for crimes against peace and solidarity just for having an opinion!!!
As i said earlier, i have nothing against NI players, and nothing against Northern fans individually, but as a collective i find many of them abhorrent. I dont hate them for sectarian reasons, i refuse to support a country, many of whose fans, a very large minority, actually hate me and anyone else who dares to be born in the Republic, just because I happen to be from the South. If you hate me.....i aint gonna like you!!!

**endabob1** · 22/11/2007, 3:23 PM

I'd support them

reder · 22/11/2007, 3:31 PM

Much like England or any other home nation, I would keep a special eye out for their results but would gain any pleasure or suffer any pain as a result.

I would love it if we got to play them in the near future. It would be interesting to see what sort of reception we would get up there. I for one would travel for definite. Also, it would be very interesting to see what sort of reception they would get here, particularly if it was in C***e park. I suspect that we might be made more welcome up there as every southern knuckle dragger will come along to the game here. As previously said, NI have cleaned up their act big time on that front.