eL and opinions about it

[anto1208]

Yea defo i used to go watch a lot of LOI football ( every home game and a good few away games ) now i dont go to watch any. That was changed by people on here.

I used to think giving someone a little power wouldnt make them act like an ass thats been changed


I used to like Jews

[Dodge]

On a psychological level, it is interesting that people tend to reply to the negative threads more than the positive ones. Must say something about society in some way.

That and its easier to make highly comic cracks about stuff you hate rather than stuff you find mildly acceptable

The people don't wear leprechaun suits or sing "ole" consider themselves better fans than those who do, for some unknown reason.

The reason is there in black & grey. I mean, Leprechaun suits?!

Finally, the average eL fan has an inflated opinion of the quality of the eL, in terms of playing standard.

And the average LOI hater underestimates the quality of football in the country. Some (on both sides) have it about right.

Who did you support anto1208?

[osarusan]

That and its easier to make highly comic cracks about stuff you hate rather than stuff you find mildly acceptable

Absolutely.

The reason is there in black & grey. I mean, Leprechaun suits?!

Maybe you're right. I've heard some of them actually cheer if the team scores a goal. Cheer!! Jesus, what's next?

And the average LOI hater underestimates the quality of football in the country. Some (on both sides) have it about right.

Not too many of those on here though.

[anto1208]

Who did you support anto1208?

Limerick, not only supported them but gave up countless hours of my life working for the club for free for about 15 years.

[osarusan]

Limerick, not only supported them but gave up countless hours of my life working for the club for free for about 15 years.

posters on here made you stop wanting to go?

If you don't mind me asking, why?

[anto1208]

posters on here made you stop wanting to go?

If you don't mind me asking, why?

I dont really want to drag it all up again but at the time i didnt think DD taking over would bring what some fans thought it would allthough i hoped it would,i got the usual torrent of abuse being told the usual stuff i get told on here that i was clueless didnt have any idea what i was talking about.

I felt that a good young manager that the players liked would get pushed out that a new manager would come in that the players didnt like he would force out some player due to personal issues he would fall out with the players & loose the dressing room. There was a number of other issues that came up at the time. In time i was proved totally right but i take no pleasure in it as it cost me my team.

Also on a general point:
Its hard to explain but ive noticed a change in LOI fans from people that just liked Footy all footy to being a bit militant about it looking down on people who like English clubs etc etc

All that coupled together to make me say a f*** it i cant be bothered anymore ill put my time effort and money into a club that appreciated it bought a season ticket to goodison and never looked back.

[Dodge]

Without being one of this snobby LOI fans (which i am anyway...) you obviously weren't that big a Limerick fan if the ramblings of no more than 15 people made you stop going to the games. if you wanted to go to the games you could've just stopped reading their ****e. Sounds like a cop out to me.

[anto1208]

Without being one of this snobby LOI fans (which i am anyway...) you obviously weren't that big a Limerick fan if the ramblings of no more than 15 people made you stop going to the games. if you wanted to go to the games you could've just stopped reading their ****e. Sounds like a cop out to me.

Yea such a bad fan that i only worked for the club for free for 15years.

I kept going and helping out but the more i noticed the change in the fans ( all fans not just LFC fans ) the less and less i enjoyed it.

But i suppose the main reason would be the club is gone !! Cant go support a team that doesnt exist

[Dodge]

But i suppose the main reason would be the club is gone !! Cant go support a team that doesnt exist

No problem with that. It was your point that the views of a few people on here that stopped you going i had the problem with

[anto1208]

No problem with that. It was your point that the views of a few people on here that stopped you going i had the problem with

It was one of the factors there was a few different reasons that all built up untill i didnt enjoy it. but i wouldnt be forced out of anything by people i just had my eyes opened by this site.

[Lim till i die]

Without being one of this snobby LOI fans (which i am anyway...) you obviously weren't that big a Limerick fan if the ramblings of no more than 15 people made you stop going to the games. if you wanted to go to the games you could've just stopped reading their ****e. Sounds like a cop out to me.

Spot On Dodge.

This:

I dont really want to drag it all up again but at the time i didnt think DD taking over would bring what some fans thought it would allthough i hoped it would,i got the usual torrent of abuse being told the usual stuff i get told on here that i was clueless didnt have any idea what i was talking about.

I felt that a good young manager that the players liked would get pushed out that a new manager would come in that the players didnt like he would force out some player due to personal issues he would fall out with the players & loose the dressing room. There was a number of other issues that came up at the time. In time i was proved totally right but i take no pleasure in it as it cost me my team.

Is all ar$e talk

While this:

But i suppose the main reason would be the club is gone !! Cant go support a team that doesnt exist

Is pathetic beyond believe

Donning my snobby LoI fan hat here but Local club gets a new name/disney image (That almost no one within the "old school" is happy about btw) and you can't follow them anymore but you can still devote 73 posts a day to the Everton thread

What basically happened was some (was no more than 3 or 4) Limerick fans on here wrongly had a go at antos' uncle/father (not sure which he is), a througholy decent sort who saved the club manys a time and anto has been having a great big cry about it ever since.






*Not that you give a $hit Dodge, just couldn't let his tripe go unchallenged
** I realise this post is probably littered with some of that bad western grammar and for this I am sorry

[Macy]

I was just wondering today if this forum has had the effect of changing anyones views perceptions and outlook on any aspect of life?

That people will use any excuse not support a League of Ireland club. My views on this have hardened. It used to be that the football was too crap, but now it's been replaced by the existing fans "attitude". If you don't want to support it, fine, don't support it. Say you just prefer watching it on tele, say you've no interest in going week in week out, and that you just couldn't be bothered really. Don't come up with bogus excuses to try and justify it.

Can't really think of much else that has really changed since foot.ie tbh. The old el message board probably had more of an impact, but I suppose that's an age thing...

[osarusan]

That people will use any excuse not support a League of Ireland club. My views on this have hardened. It used to be that the football was too crap, but now it's been replaced by the existing fans "attitude". If you don't want to support it, fine, don't support it. Say you just prefer watching it on tele, say you've no interest in going week in week out, and that you just couldn't be bothered really. Don't come up with bogus excuses to try and justify it.

To be fair though, I think there is a real contradiction between "we need to convince people to come to eL games (these people will need to be football fans, and if it's not eL, what is it?".............and on the other hand "Barstoolers are a bunch of moronic ******* and I'd rather they never came to an eL game."

If attendances are are going to increase, surely "barstoolers" must be one of the target customers? Yet the attitude towards them on this website is hardly inviting/inclusive.

Some people may not be eL fans for the valid reasons you've listed above, but some potential fans may be turned off by what I think is a definite superiority complex.

[Dodge]

If attendances are are going to increase, surely "barstoolers" must be one of the target customers? Yet the attitude towards them on this website is hardly inviting/inclusive.

But clubs/fans have tried for years and years to get these people to go to games and they've always had an excuse. I'm firmly in the camp that believes that nothing will get the majority of Irish people into LOI grounds. And although I have an LOI superiority complex, I don't ever attack people on here for supporting British sides. I may pity them but it doesn't bother me that somebody supports Chelsea over Bohs (or whatever)

Some people may not be eL fans for the valid reasons you've listed above, but some potential fans may be turned off by what I think is a definite superiority complex.

Again I think its a complete cop out. If they went to the games, they'd notice we don't all stand around thinking how great we are, we just get on with supporting our teams. you'll also find that Irish supporters of Liverpool have no problem with the scouser's superiority complex (to non scouser Liverpool fans) and this is repeated throughout the premiership. Its selective reasoning...

[osarusan]

I'm firmly in the camp that believes that nothing will get the majority of Irish people into LOI grounds.

As am I. They're not big enough.

If they went to the games, they'd notice we don't all stand around thinking how great we are, we just get on with supporting our teams.

I agree with this also.

But the people we're talking about are people who don't know this because they don't go to games, so they won't be using this as a criterion on which they make their decision to go or not.

I fully agree with the opinion that once people have actually gone to a few games, seen the atmosphere, and the fact that the football is much better than they had expected/been led to believe, and generally had a good time, a large percentage will want to go again, and again.

But the question is how to make people who now have no affiliation with the eL start to become interested in the eL? In this respect, a superiority complex may have a (small) adverse effect.

[Dodge]

But the question is how to make people who now have no affiliation with the eL start to become interested in the eL? In this respect, a superiority complex may have a (small) adverse effect.

It may do, but its a question of context. You won't find many LOI fans going into random pubs and shouting their mouths off at people watching Arsenal v Chelsea. The fact is he'll probably have as much an interest in it as most.

What we say on here is pretty much to a limited audience and a number of things are assumed of the reader. We assume that those here want Irish football to succeed. We assume that they are at least aware of our league. Its only really when these people belittle/mock our league that the LOIers react and hit back.

I have no hesitation in sying people who go to watch their team are far better fans than those who watch their team on TV. I also have yet to hear one valid reason for supporting Liverpool over Limerick. This debate usually ends up with a non LOIer complaining about the LOIer's superiority complex but IMo its really the non LOIer's inferiority complex because deep down they know the LOI fan is right.

[Macy]

Some people may not be eL fans for the valid reasons you've listed above, but some potential fans may be turned off by what I think is a definite superiority complex.

I'm not necessarily sure they are valid reasons and I don't think any kind of "attitude" genuinely exists outside the reality of internet forums. It's a pure and utter cop out anyway. The debate and slagging of out of towners at United, Liverpool etc has been going on since the early 90's (actually back to the 60's at United tbh), the few games a season crowd are generally despised by the hardcore, yet it doesn't stop the same people who use the "attitude of league of Ireland fans" paying their sky sports sub, or their 5 trips a season, or buying a kit. It's a nonsense.

[gustavo]

I'm not necessarily sure they are valid reasons and I don't think any kind of "attitude" genuinely exists outside the reality of internet forums. It's a pure and utter cop out anyway. The debate and slagging of out of towners at United, Liverpool etc has been going on since the early 90's (actually back to the 60's at United tbh), the few games a season crowd are generally despised by the hardcore, yet it doesn't stop the same people who use the "attitude of league of Ireland fans" paying their sky sports sub, or their 5 trips a season, or buying a kit. It's a nonsense.

Reminds me of the time on here a guy from Sligo went over to watch a Man United game and was wondering why he was getting funny looks when he and the people he was with clapped an opposition player off the pitch who was from Sligo.

[Dodge]

BTW I'm off to Old Trafford next month...

[John83]

BTW I'm off to Old Trafford next month...

Damn you, and your children, and your children's children. For one month.