Lawrenson's "we" again

**an_ceannaire** · 22/11/2007, 10:41 AM

Anyone notice it again last night
why didnt he just play for them.....he would have walked into their squad at the time.

**John83** · 22/11/2007, 10:43 AM

He was born there. Who gives a damn? And yes, people did notice - it was in another thread.

**Dodge** · 22/11/2007, 10:50 AM

Anybody who cares about this is an absolute ****.

To answer the question he didn't play for England becaue he wasn't picked

**Billsthoughts** · 22/11/2007, 10:51 AM

wasnt he a late bloomer and ireland got him before england noticed how good he was? and agree with all the above posters. apart from the first one.

**OwlsFan** · 22/11/2007, 11:31 AM

He's talking to an English audience so no harm in saying "we". Wouldn't get my knickers (if I wore any) in a twist over it.

**Maroon 7** · 22/11/2007, 11:33 AM

Whatever about his liberal use of "we" my personal favourite Lawro moment last night was..

Motson: Say something Mark?

Lawro: I can't.

**S�C** · 22/11/2007, 11:36 AM

I remember years ago after a poor showing by England Lawro was on Football Focus, he was asked what could England do to improve things, his reponse was that he didnt care about England, he's an Ireland fan!

Dont see the problem with him saying we for England on English tv tbh

**MyTown** · 22/11/2007, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Maroon 7

Whatever about his liberal use of "we" my personal favourite Lawro moment last night was..

Motson: Say something Mark?

Lawro: I can't.

Mine was when Lawro blurted that the Croations had subjected England to an abject lesson on the night.

I presume he meant the lesson was object while England's performance was abject...but with Lawro & Motty, you never know.

**gustavo** · 22/11/2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by MyTown

Mine was when Lawro blurted that the Croations had subjected England to an abject lesson on the night.

I presume he meant the lesson was object while England's performance was abject...but with Lawro & Motty, you never know.

I think abject can be used in that context too , I think it can also mean humiliating or words to that effect.

**Lim till i die** · 22/11/2007, 11:44 AM

Maybe it was the royal we - as in "we are not amused"??

Although this theory only opens up another can of worm for the four green fields brigade

**jbyrne** · 22/11/2007, 11:46 AM

leave lawro alone. may not have been born here but a very proud Irishman and i know that for a fact. so what if he used "we". i also heard him say refer to england (rather than we) on numerous occasions. he is commentating on an eng match for eng tv so big deal.
if trevor steven or souness said "we" in relation to the Irish team or an Irish player while commentating on rte do you really think that it would lead to a thread such as this on an eng or scotish forum? ... i doubt it

**John83** · 22/11/2007, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

if trevor steven or souness said "we" in relation to the Irish team or an Irish player while commentating on rte do you really think that it would lead to a thread such as this on an eng or scotish forum? ... i doubt it

And if Souness used 'we' for England, I imagine there'd be no end of Scots unhappy. You're not using a fair comparison.

**MyTown** · 22/11/2007, 11:55 AM

I think Lawro is the best contributor on Football Focus, MOTD and to the Irish Times. He was a great servant for us & scored the last meaningful away goal in qualifying tournaments.

**osarusan** · 22/11/2007, 12:02 PM

Haven't we had this debate before? I personally couldn't care less. Given that he was born and has lived pretty much all his life in England, perhaps he considers himself somewhat English, despite his caps for Ireland.

**Dodge** · 22/11/2007, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by S�C

I remember years ago after a poor showing by England Lawro was on Football Focus, he was asked what could England do to improve things, his reponse was that he didnt care about England, he's an Ireland fan!

He said in a completely jokey way BTW. As I've said I coulddn't care less and don't think he's done anything wrong

**London-Irish** · 22/11/2007, 12:21 PM

Is this the same as Terry Wogan saying 'we' when he was on the BBC for the Eurovision Song Contest as the Uk entry came on? Wogan's comments made the front page of the Irish Post newspaper in London.

**paudie** · 22/11/2007, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by MyTown

I think Lawro is the best contributor on Football Focus, MOTD and to the Irish Times. He was a great servant for us & scored the last meaningful away goal in qualifying tournaments.

I thought that was Gary Mackay?

**paudie** · 22/11/2007, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by MyTown

I think Lawro is the best contributor on Football Focus, MOTD and to the Irish Times. He was a great servant for us & scored the last meaningful away goal in qualifying tournaments.

Have to disagree with you (not on the great servant bit of course).

Don't read him in the Times but on BBC he comes across as a smug, not particularly knowledgeable, smartarse IMHO.

He is better than Ian Wright though, I'll give him that.

**London-Irish** · 22/11/2007, 12:31 PM

Both said WE on the BBC?

**Stuttgart88** · 22/11/2007, 12:31 PM

Come on An Ceanaire, there are about 10 open threads on some of the most interesting topics being discussed here in a long while and your only contribution is Lawrenson's use of "we"?