QuoteYou might be right. Plus there is also a scenario whereby a majority of the FAI will reject the 3 amigos recommendation (if indeed it is Venables).Originally Posted by eekers
PP usually closes down at night time.
The other books look open and unflustered.
It's not the second time, must the 4th or 5th time Noely has proclaimed the new manager.
He's desperate to drown his sorrows to a deeper level.
You might be right. Plus there is also a scenario whereby a majority of the FAI will reject the 3 amigos recommendation (if indeed it is Venables).
lads Houghton works for RTE, there is no way that Venables wont be the manager now. RTE would not have put this up without checking with Houghton
In Trap we trust
Venables has been linked with this job before the panel was formed as we know. That link wasn't just pulled out of the sky surely. Delaney wants Venables so Delaney will get Venables.
Forgot about that. The amazing thing is you can still get a bet on Venables on the English bookies sites.
Ok. Is it time to start focusing on the positives.
Most of the discussion on Tel the last month or two has been negative (who is the 'least worst' between Tel and Brady).
He has a management record greater (in size and achievement) than any of our previous managers. (ancient history I know)
He will have the respect of the players more than any other current candidate (open to debate )
He is considered a good coach within the game.
I can't think of any more.
The dude abides....
Venables and Brady have been the bookies' favourites for some time now, regardless of talk of Houllier, Deschamps, Allardyce or Mick II so I would be inclined to believe the RTÉ report.
Can't say the appointment fills me with hope but sure he can''t be much worse than the previous incumbent.
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I agree. Its all down to results now.
Does the report say that he's getting the job? I'm having trouble loading up the RTE website for some reason....
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0111/venablest.html
Somebody shoot me.
I think I should the parachute, because I'm great.
In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.
still odds-against on betfair and even money VC bet
There is still a less than 50% chance he gets it according to the betting.
Live in hope i say
Hold 'em is to stud what chess is to checkers." Johnny Moss.
Nothing about Venables on the 11pm RTE radio sports news. Nothing on Newstalk sportsnews either. Very strange.
Venables
I agree.
If we assume for the moment that he is the new coach.
He would never have been my first choice but that is much more to do with his record off the pitch.
He is very respected as a coach (I have yet to find any record of a top class player that has worked with Venables who has anything bad to say about his coaching ability).
People have mentioned some of the mistakes that he made in the transfer market. You could say that about any manager and it's not relevant to our position so, frankly, I don't care about that.
I think that his manipulation of the English press and sly undermining of Steve McLarens position was pretty despicable. However, it was a bad decision by McLaren to bring Venables in as it's obvious that Tel likes to be the top man.
I know that Venables keeps his buddies in the press close but, in this case, he is the top man and he alone will be judged on results. If they're not good, then he'll get the blame - simple as that.
My main worry about Venables is his commitment. If he really wants to do the job, I truly believe that he is an excellent coach/tactician and could get the best out of our team.
However, if he is simply looking for an easy payday (and a large payoff if it all goes tits up!), then we're in trouble.
A professional organisation would ensure that, if he doesn't give total commitment to the job, he could be dismissed without a big payout. Unfortunately, I have little faith in the FAI to handle it.
I'll always get behind the team and I really hope that Venables can match his considerable skill and experience with a determination to prove that he can still do it at the top level.
If he did, I really think he can move the team onwards and upwards.
I think that we should ignore his previous record and give him a fair chance. It will be pretty obvious in a short time if he really wants to make something of the job or if he justs sees it as a "nice little earner" in between pursuing his other business interests.
The IT posted up a restrained article late this afternoon on the search
Venables remains in the framel
"It is likely the trio will recommend the 65-year-old for the position over the next 10 days. The FAI's Board of Management could then ratify the appointment at their scheduled meeting on January 22nd, thereby allowing the new boss select a squad for the Brazil friendly at Croke Park on February 6th".
Are there any straws left to clutch?
To be honest, I think that's a fairly big leap in logic. The gossip at the awards tonight was that Venables would be recommended by the selection committee, not hugely different from what we've been led to believe for weeks now. There are posters on this board who would have been in attendance so it'll be interesting to see if any further details of this rumour come out here.
Here's the full report on the RTE website that has seen Venables' odds shorten:
Venables set to be panel's choice
Friday, 11 January 2008 22:02
News broke at the Irish Football Writer's Awards dinner on Friday night that the three-man selection panel of Ray Houghton, Don Givens and Don Howe were set to recommend that Terry Venables be offered the vacant Republic of Ireland position.
An FAI board meeting is scheduled for 22 January and Venables could be installed then, but the FAI are refusing to comment on the story.
The awards took place at the Radisson Hotel, at Golden Lane in Dublin, where Paul Doolin of Drogheda United won the manager of the year award.This report is the only result on google for "Irish Football Writer's Awards". The awards tonight are the Soccer Writers Association of Ireland (SWAI) Awards....News broke at the Irish Football Writer's Awards dinner
... and of course the SWAI present a Personality of the Year award, not manager of the year (Shelley and Mooney being among the nominees).Paul Doolin of Drogheda United won the manager of the year award.
Rather than a thoroughly fact-checked story, it looks to me like just another of the many, many leaks that the media are so keen to run with so they can later boast that they were FIRST with the news.
Plenty of wiggle room in the choice of words. Eventually, one of these rumours will be correct and someone will do well off the bookies - even if this is the one, there's still a long way to go before the FAI ratify what would clearly be an unpopular appointment.News broke at the Irish Football Writer's Awards dinner on Friday night that the three-man selection panel of Ray Houghton, Don Givens and Don Howe were set to recommend that Terry Venables be offered the vacant Republic of Ireland position.
An FAI board meeting is scheduled for 22 January and Venables could be installed then, but the FAI are refusing to comment on the story.
The awards took place at the Radisson Hotel, at Golden Lane in Dublin, where Paul Doolin of Drogheda United won the manager of the year award.
My concern with El Tel is whether or not he has the motivation & hunger needed to get our lads into shape, especially mentally. We can't hold onto a lead FFS!
Will he be willing to go to Championship games at Burnely or Ipswich to look at players or will he delegate to others?
Sort of on the positive side he may pull in a few Plastic Paddys I suppose which mighn't be a bad thing. We could use a new Andy Townsend or Ray Houghton.
He won't have a problem with the media and he has seen it all. But is he past his sell by date....
I'm sorry Noely but this is the post that broke the camels back.... I love yer enthusiasm for Ireland and your posts are insightful but I don't know how many times I've heard this manager and that manager from you for the job. Its getting annoying at this stage man,.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
Whilst Venables wouldn't be up their with my top choices for the job, I think it's important that if he gets the job (and I have being told he will be getting it, but I never totally trust the grape-vine) we support the man and let him get on with things. He has experience, that is undeniable. After all, if he is good enough to manage Barcelona (and win a league with them), as well as England, then he is certainly nobody for us to be looking down at. Also, if he has got the job, it means the players supported him or at least didn't have a problem with him. We could do far worse and I'm sure he would be driven to succeed.
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