Terry Venables

**Ireland4ever** · 14/12/2007, 9:37 AM

Originally Posted by RogerMilla

no i'm not over-reacting , he is in the FAI's employ and shouldnt be giving an opinion on something which directly impinges on his task for them!

agreed , but far from surprised .

If El TEL is in one of the contenders for the Irish job then yes it is a bit of a joke, but Howes comments would suggest otherwise surely.

**RogerMilla** · 14/12/2007, 9:41 AM

Originally Posted by Ireland4ever

If El TEL is in one of the contenders for the Irish job then yes it is a bit of a joke, but Howes comments would suggest otherwise surely.

yeah it deffo suggests otherwise, as i said it could be worth a lay on betfair

**KildareFan** · 14/12/2007, 10:04 AM

Does anybody know if Howe is actually being paid by the FAI or is he just there in some sort of advisory role?

**OwlsFan** · 14/12/2007, 10:04 AM

Are you rejecting him because of the media campaign for him or because he's not the man for the job or both? I am not bothered about the media campaign. There was a large campaign against Jack's appointment but that soon withered away (where are you now Con Houlihan?).

I am against the appointment because I honestly think his best days (such as they were) are behind him, he sees our position as a nice sinecure and there are better (eg Hodgson) out there.

That said, if he is appointed, it could be worse because he's not a novice, has experience and would probably be respected by the players.

**Stuttgart88** · 14/12/2007, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

I am against the appointment because I honestly think his best days (such as they were) are behind him, he sees our position as a nice sinecure and there are better (eg Hodgson) out there.

That said, if he is appointed, it could be worse because he's not a novice, has experience and would probably be respected by the players.

I was trying to say above that that's how I would feel if I could think about it objectively (i.e., I don't want him, there are better candidates but we could do worse - and have done frequently). However, the media campaign and other factors mean I can't think about it objectively - I dislike him intensely and I hate the media campaign and the lack of thought. These subjective matters dominate the objective view that he might be ok.

**sparkey** · 14/12/2007, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Newryrep

I very much doubt Capello would want TV any where near his set up which should be our attitude as well.

The fact that Howe is suggesting TV would suggest that either

a. he is out of the running for the Ireland job
b. he is a good coach and he should go to England before Ireland
c. Howe is completely out of touch with the modern game

Take your pick

Or Howe thinks that being assistant manager at England is a bigger job than being manager with us

**John83** · 14/12/2007, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Superhoops

a. and c. sound good

c. sounds really bad given he's going to have a hand in the choice of the next Ireland manager.

**geysir** · 14/12/2007, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I was trying to say above that that's how I would feel if I could think about it objectively (i.e., I don't want him, there are better candidates but we could do worse - and have done frequently). However, the media campaign and other factors mean I can't think about it objectively - I dislike him intensely and I hate the media campaign and the lack of thought. These subjective matters dominate the objective view that he might be ok.

Sometimes it�s hard to play past the man

**Noelys Guitar** · 14/12/2007, 11:07 AM

This 3-man committee nonsense should be immediately disbanded. FAI shambles number 194. Howe is going through the motions in regards to selecting our manager. The FAI ahve to approach the best man for the job. If he declines then go onto the next best candidate.

**Superhoops** · 14/12/2007, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

From Don Howe's column in the telegraph on Capello's appointment as England manager: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mai.../sfntac113.xml

On the one hand - whu-hooooo!! He wants Venables to assist England. Again.
On the other hand - d'oh! He definitely rates Venables as a coach.

Tets, only just came across this. I had started another thread on this same subject without realising you had already raised it here, sorry

.

I haven't look at this thread for a while as I only get depressed reading about TV.

**Stuttgart88** · 14/12/2007, 12:41 PM

Howe says that Venables has the knowledge of the English game necessary to complement Capello's knowledge of the game as played in Italy and Spain.

Is such English-specific knowledge required in our context? Yes, all our players play in Britain but all our candidates are either English, brought up in the English system or at least with a very good knowledge of it (Jol, Houllier, Haan to a much lesser extent).

I hope Shearer gets the job as Capello's token Englishman. Capello will be banging on about keeping the ball, being patient, drawing the defender, switching the play etc. and Shearer'll be on the sideline shouting "down the channels, get in amonst 'em!"

**tetsujin1979** · 14/12/2007, 1:55 PM

Originally Posted by Superhoops

Tets, only just came across this. I had started another thread on this same subject without realising you had already raised it here, sorry

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I haven't look at this thread for a while as I only get depressed reading about TV.

No problem. I get depressed reading some of the other threads here lately.

**irishfan86** · 14/12/2007, 9:22 PM

Bulgaria have apparently contacted TV:

The Bulgarian Football Union has revealed that it has approached Terry Venables about becoming the next manager national manager.

Venables has been named on a seven-man shortlist, as the BFU look for Hristo Stoichkov's permanent successor.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...974340,00.html

**Stuttgart88** · 14/12/2007, 9:29 PM

If there is anyone from the Bulgarian FA reading, Venables is a great coach, a top guy with undoubted commitment to the job and just look at how well England did in Euro '96. McLaren as a muppet, undoing all of Venables' undoubted good work with England recently. Players like him too. Respected journalists, guys I've always admired like Paul Hyland and Dion Fanning rave about him and who am I to argue with football brains of this calibre?

**Stuttgart88** · 14/12/2007, 9:30 PM

Who are the other 6 candidates?

**Superhoops** · 14/12/2007, 9:31 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Howe says that Venables has the knowledge of the English game necessary to complement Capello's knowledge of the game as played in Italy and Spain.

Is such English-specific knowledge required in our context? Yes, all our players play in Britain but all our candidates are either English, brought up in the English system or at least with a very good knowledge of it (Jol, Houllier, Haan to a much lesser extent).

I hope Shearer gets the job as Capello's token Englishman. Capello will be banging on about keeping the ball, being patient, drawing the defender, switching the play etc. and Shearer'll be on the sideline shouting "down the channels, get in amonst 'em!"

Shearer's Geordie accent should compliment Capello's Italian twang perfectly. England players will be more confused than ever. Yi-Ha

**irishfan86** · 14/12/2007, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Who are the other 6 candidates?

-Former Bulgaria coach Plamen Markov

-Macedonia coach Srecko Katanec

4 others whose names are not being disclosed

**Philly** · 15/12/2007, 1:32 PM

According to Mark Lawrenson on the Premier League programme on Today FM Terry Venables has been offered the Ireland job. He says he has it 'on very good authority'. He also said that Venables is considering the offer over the next few days as he has other options to consider.

Wonder what the other options are. Perhaps he's being offered some role with England?