Terry Venables

**amaccann** · 28/11/2007, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Tir Oilean

He was brilliant! Pure passion and he had done some serious amount of homework on El Tel too. Gift Grubs sketch a la Only Fools and Horses is fecking hilarious too!

yeah, but - i wanna see it damn it!

**ainsie** · 28/11/2007, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by lionelhutz

You said Englands euor 96 team "wasn't a good one". It was an excellent team with the likes of Seaman, Neville, Adams, Southgate, Ince, Shearer, Sherringham all in great form. Fowler couldn't even get a sniff and he was banging in 30 goals a season at the time. I know this doesn't exactly show Venables is a good manager but you said they were a bad team - implying it was his fault.

You also said Scotland were unlucky - besides the penalty miss they were totally outplayed. Go back and watch it again. You said the Swiss and spanish should also have beaten them - again, the Swiss was match just a poor game overall with neither side playing great and although the Spanish kept possession well, they didn't create anything of note.

After that you said England performed above themselves against Germany - which you gave no credit to Venables because "every recent England team goes out on a high besides Eriksson's". Not true - Keegans team in 2000 went out without a whimper and Taylor didn't even qualify in '94.

I'm just citing his England team as an example, as it would be most relevant as it's an international team

Hope you meant the pun underlined above.

**Stuttgart88** · 28/11/2007, 1:35 PM

Originally Posted by cavan_fan

He's 64, none of the guys arrested were.

Sorry, don't know what made me post football / corruption / London in a Venables thread

**geysir** · 28/11/2007, 1:39 PM

The headline should be more like,
Shocker, teflon Venables not amongst 4 arrested for football corruption

**NeilMcD** · 28/11/2007, 1:57 PM

The RTE panels discussion is up on the RTE website at the moment. Dunphy is spot on about Venables.

**Scram** · 28/11/2007, 2:00 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Seemingly Giles gave El Tel a qualified endorsement on Newstalk.

As did Paul McGrath (unqualified). Reckons he's the man.

**Stuttgart88** · 28/11/2007, 2:07 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

The RTE panels discussion is up on the RTE website at the moment. Dunphy is spot on about Venables.

I can see the photo but there's no arrow to click to get it to play. Am I missing something?

**ifk101** · 28/11/2007, 2:08 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I can see the photo but there's no arrow to click to get it to play. Am I missing something?

Click on the photo

**Stuttgart88** · 28/11/2007, 2:11 PM

I clicked on the photo & the text underneath, nothing happens on my PC.

**ifk101** · 28/11/2007, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I clicked on the photo & the text underneath, nothing happens on my PC.

A new window should open. See if you are blocking pop-ups from rte.ie.

**NeilMcD** · 28/11/2007, 2:14 PM

I think its Dunphy's best performance on the RTE panel and he is spot on. Fair play to him on this, and I think he is dead right to try to shoot down the kite that has been flown with the aid of a few guys in the written media.

**Stuttgart88** · 28/11/2007, 2:16 PM

Originally Posted by ifk101

A new window should open. See if you are blocking pop-ups from rte.ie.

Yep, i get an Information bar saying pop ups are blocked. I'll wait until I get home. Thanks.

**ifk101** · 28/11/2007, 2:19 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Yep, i get an Information bar saying pop ups are blocked. I'll wait until I get home. Thanks.

No worries. This is the link for the pop-up.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2007/1127/soccer_av.html

**Stuttgart88** · 28/11/2007, 2:28 PM

Thanks

**geysir** · 28/11/2007, 2:52 PM

It's not that Dunphy does not make good points, it's that he is as usual irrational and biased in his argument. He reduces the argument against Venables to populist tabloid screamers in the guise of I care
Giles and Souness are more rational and if I did not have any information beforehand I would dismiss about 3/4 of Dunphy's rant and take what the other 2 as having more cred.
The main argument for Venables is that if he is focussed on the job he can do it well.
That if is too big imo, the nature of International football is such that Venables can easily get unfocussed.

**shakermaker1982** · 28/11/2007, 5:19 PM

I love RTE's analysis (just watching it now for first time). Brilliant!!!

**onephillyhughes** · 28/11/2007, 5:20 PM

I've never agreed with Dunphy about pretty much anything up until his article in The Star on Monday last. He's spot on about Venables, and fair play to him, he's speaking up against just about every media hack in the country. Plus he had a little pop at Roy Keane too

**hamburg paul** · 28/11/2007, 8:38 PM

have just seen lads in action on rte for the first time and although scrumpy can be a bit of a pain ,he is fighting supporters corner !afterall nobody else listens to us !This venereal!eh sorry Venables thing is getting up steam ,please let there be some justice and this ******* does not get the job !

**Noelys Guitar** · 28/11/2007, 8:40 PM

The FAI (Delaney?) called Venables on Saturday. A journalist who has just been on newstalk106 said he was sitting down in a restaurant with TV on Saturday when TV got a call from the "FAI".

**eekers** · 28/11/2007, 8:59 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

The FAI (Delaney?) called Venables on Saturday. A journalist who has just been on newstalk106 said he was sitting down in a restaurant with TV on Saturday when TV got a call from the "FAI".

do you think there's the possiblity that delaney's gonna end up being deposed from within the fai because of his behaviour?
we all know delaney wants venables.
even thought delaney was supposed to stay out of the process.
he now seems to be selecting selectors on the basis that they're in the venables camp.