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    Quote Originally Posted by Deckydee View Post
    Well at least he was interviewed, that is something
    With there being only a non-committal "thanks for coming" seemingly given to even those candidates considered sucessful, Im not sure what that "something" is.

    We're now in ,what, week 5 of a 10/12 week process?

    Isn't there every chance that those few interviewed candidates that are still unemployed at the end of this process will be the dregs , the hopeless, and the downright unemployable?
    On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"

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    Well at least he was interviewed, that is something
    I would have nearly preferred if they hadnt gone near him now. This makes me so angry. They had the best candidate in front of them, and going by what he said he wanted the job. When he was in that interview was the bloody time to offer it to him. Tell him pure and simple, as he is easily the best candidate, that the job is his to accept or refuse. That is the best candidate gone because of the stupide process that each candidate has to go through

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    Sums up the process. Waste of time and a sham. We are going to end up once more with a manager that no one else wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bondvillain View Post
    With there being only a non-committal "thanks for coming" seemingly given to even those candidates considered sucessful, Im not sure what that "something" is.
    We already know the process is a farce. I'm just happy Hodgson was interviewed. That is "something". Judging by what Houghton said a few weeks ago I worried that they were only interviewing those that applied for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    We already know the process is a farce. I'm just happy Hodgson was interviewed. That is "something". Judging by what Houghton said a few weeks ago I worried that they were only interviewing those that applied for the job.
    I know where you're coming from, but the intricacies of which candidates get interviewed now count for naught.

    What was the point of interviewing him at all if Don, Don & Ray simply expected him to turn off his mobile & twiddle his thumbs in a waiting room for another 7 weeks getting splinters in his hole , hoping that the FAI eventually decide that he's better qualified than Howard Kendall?
    Surely they knew he'd eventually tell the story to the press, and that the FAI's moronic long drawn out process COULDN'T come out of it in a good light, possibly tainting future applicants and candidates views on the process?

    That doesn't just go for Hodgson, it goes for everyone who has to sit through this embarrassment, when there are clubs and countries making considered hard cash offers to qualified managers straight off the bat.
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    "There was contact from Ireland. It came at the same time as Fulham got in touch" Hodson said. Please do the interview Roy so everyone won't make out this is a sham. Same thing happened with Jewell. It must be around the football vine by now that this 3 migo's thing is a joke.

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    Whatever about the merits of the committee process, it's worth pointing out that perhaps, just perhaps, Hodgson simply didn't want the Ireland job. It seems he had a choice of YET ANOTHER international gig, or a chance to manage a Premiership side & increase his stock there after his time at Blackburn. To me, it doesn't take too much speculation to suspect that Hodgson simply didn't want to manage another middling international team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amaccann View Post
    Whatever about the merits of the committee process, it's worth pointing out that perhaps, just perhaps, Hodgson simply didn't want the Ireland job. It seems he had a choice of YET ANOTHER international gig, or a chance to manage a Premiership side & increase his stock there after his time at Blackburn. To me, it doesn't take too much speculation to suspect that Hodgson simply didn't want to manage another middling international team.
    You don't attend a job interview and answer the questions posed to you unless you want the job...or maybe you do?
    I think he would have taken it had he been offered it there and then, however, once the Fulham job was on the cards there was only ever one winner. That doesn't mean that he didn't want the Ireland job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    You don't attend a job interview and answer the questions posed to you unless you want the job...or maybe you do?
    I think he would have taken it had he been offered it there and then, however, once the Fulham job was on the cards there was only ever one winner. That doesn't mean that he didn't want the Ireland job.
    Well not exactly the same situation, but I've attended interviews where I've not been 100% that I wanted the job; I did so out of courtesy and giving the potential employer the benefit of the doubt & a chance to argue the case, as it were. Presumably he talked to the FAI to let them see what they had to say, and then took the club option once he felt Fulham offered him something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amaccann View Post
    Well not exactly the same situation, but I've attended interviews where I've not been 100% that I wanted the job; I did so out of courtesy and giving the potential employer the benefit of the doubt & a chance to argue the case, as it were. Presumably he talked to the FAI to let them see what they had to say, and then took the club option once he felt Fulham offered him something different.
    I went for an interview once so that I could get a free trip to london and visit a mate of mine that lived there, eventhough I had no interest in the job Backfired in the end though because I refused their offer but 5 years later I would really like to have the job now.

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    I'd like to know what Hodgson said during the meeting that lead to him not being offered the job. Maybe it was his refusal to wear a Venables mask for the entire contract.

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    What he really said was "I was waiting for a club job, Fulham offered it, so I took it". He'll be gone by the time our WCQ's end.

    Yes, the process is shambolic, but the bloke who wants it, will wait until the appointment is made, before considering other offers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    I'd like to know what Hodgson said during the meeting that lead to him not being offered the job.
    Nothing. The experts have to go through 16 ****ing "candidates", even though none of them are near Hodgson. Another one bites the dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    the bloke who wants it, will wait until the appointment is made, before considering other offers.
    You are joking surely?

    These managers are professionals, and realists. If a job offer comes along while they are waiting to hear back from another job interview, and the terms and conditions meet their criteria, they'll take the job.

    You hardly believe that there are managers out there who want the Irish job above all else and are willing to turn down actual job offers to wait and see if they're the chosen candidate from 16 applicants. Only somebody with an emotional attachment to the Irish team would possibly do that - Brady, Giles, O'Leary - and they aren't exactly inundated with other offers anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    You don't attend a job interview and answer the questions posed to you unless you want the job...or maybe you do?
    I think he would have taken it had he been offered it there and then, however, once the Fulham job was on the cards there was only ever one winner. That doesn't mean that he didn't want the Ireland job.
    Meetings like that happen all the time. I remember Roy Keane was set on joining Celtic but still met up with a few of the other managers out of courtesy.

    I think Hodgson would have chosen Fulham over us judging by his comments. He was contacted by Ireland and Fulham. He was confident that his interview for the Ireland job went very well but still jumped at the Fulham offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Meetings like that happen all the time. I remember Roy Keane was set on joining Celtic but still met up with a few of the other managers out of courtesy.

    I think Hodgson would have chosen Fulham over us judging by his comments. He was contacted by Ireland and Fulham. He was confident that his interview for the Ireland job went very well but still jumped at the Fulham offer.
    Of course he would choose Fulham. They offered him a job we didn't. keane's situation was different. He was offered contracts by Everton, Bolton, West ham and others. "Can you hang on for a few weeks Keano we have to interview others"
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    This process is not good for going out and getting the best man. Its like the Civil Service Appointments Commisssion. The process is fair but does not always result in the best man for the job as the long winded process puts people who just want to be appointed.
    In Trap we trust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar View Post
    Of course he would choose Fulham. They offered him a job we didn't. keane's situation was different. He was offered contracts by Everton, Bolton, West ham and others. "Can you hang on for a few weeks Keano we have to interview others"
    If Hodgson was even a teeny bit interested in the Ireland job he could have contacted Houghton or Howe and said 'Fulham are offering me €5m pa plus a bonus for not failing, sounds a lot better that what the Ireland job has to offer, what do you think?'

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    Lads if Hodgson had of been offered the Ireland job in November after he resigned as Finland coach he would have taken it I have no doubt about that. Instead we have a slow moving process which is all about due process (or maybe its a sham and just a way to appoint Venables). Anyway it cannot react in the same way that a private business can like Fulham. So when Sanchez was sacked Fulham were able to move quickly and offer Him a contract. What could Ireland offer, just an interview and a possibilty to be the manager. If he turned down Fulham and then Ireland did not appoint him, he would be seriously ****ed off.

    Thats the way it appears to me anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    If Hodgson was even a teeny bit interested in the Ireland job he could have contacted Houghton or Howe and said 'Fulham are offering me €5m pa plus a bonus for not failing, sounds a lot better that what the Ireland job has to offer, what do you think?'

    And they would have said :

    "Roy mate, sounds canny. Im sure we can work something out. Can you stall them for a couple of weeks? We've just had Howard Kendall in. Very interesting man. It's pretty much between you and him. And Venables. Oh and maybe Dave O Leary, and we're going through the aptitude tests now & Big Don reckons we'll have a decision by February, so If you could put them off for......Hello? HELLO? Bloody Meteor phones!"


    So perhaps Roy is cleverer than he looks...
    On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"

    And they nearly did.

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