There's no point in appointing managers who want club jobs, cause they won't last 5 seconds in ours, before they'll be off, as NI, and Scotland have recently found out. A man who isn't 100% committed to our cause is not worth interviewing, never mind considering. If that means we end up with a load of has beens selection, so be it. At least they'll care whether they get it or not.Originally Posted by gspain
We had our chance to get him weeks ago and didn't take it.
Ya can't see anyone other than those 4 and Sanchez in the picture now to be honest. Agree with your order of your preferences and would stick Sanchez in there between Brady and Houllier, just because his good record with NI, but didn't like the inconsistency he brought them, or jumping ship at the first chance!!!
Still, only the appointment of Houllier would not annoy me.
San Marino are going to be a handful as the group goes on." - Steve Staunton reacts to performance against San Marino.
Just saw the news. Would have been the ideal choice. No point dwelling on what might have been now. If this doesn't get their ar$es in gear I don't know what will. Of whats left it's hard look beyond Houllier at this point from the list of leading contenders. Big doubts over all of them but he'd tick most boxes.
Anyone for Loius Van Gaal? Dull as dishwater but has had great success at all his clubs. Some will say there is a major question mark hanging over his international pedigree after we dumped Holland out of qualifying for '02. No disgrace imo, with they way that Irish team played. AZ Alkmaar are on the slide and selling their best talent continously. I'm sure his wages aren't astronomical there; so could he or, should he be approached?
Mens sana in corpore sano
Exactly... It's re-god-damn-diculous!!
Mick McCarthy's odds are falling rapid.... They were 50/1... I didn't believe it when I got the "tip" a few weeks back but it's getting more credence as the weeks go on.
Under no circumstances do I want Venables.
That's a fair enough estimation of Hodgson. It would have been a marraige of convenience until he had an EPL offer.
An able manager,100% committed to doing a professional job is cause enough for me.A man who isn't 100% committed to our cause is not worth interviewing, never mind considering. If that means we end up with a load of has beens selection, so be it. At least they'll care whether they get it or not.
This just shows how much of a joke the process of selecting our next manager is. If Hodgson was approached he would have taken the job. It seems that wasn't even on the 16 man shortlist.
None of them are capable in my opinion. Houllier is the only candidate that could see us qualifying for the WC.
houillier couldn't qualify the french side for the wc in 94, that went on to win it 4 years after.
but he has a job and isn't going to jeopardise it by attending an interview for the irish job. and the selection panel isn't going to recommend a candidate they haven't interviewed
Farcical, farcical, farcical.
The F.A.I. - Farcical
The selection process for a 'selection commitee' - Farcical
The Selection Comittees announcement that finding someone may take months. - Farcical.
The fact that England's search is over & contracts are signed before The Don brothers and Ray have had their first meeting to decide what order their names will go on the press release - Farcical, yet somehow expected.
The Fact that Korea, Scotland, Serbia, Finland and all other similar & higher ranking teams (not to mention the half dozen or so club vacancies that will no doubt arise before a decision is made...) will have their managers signed up before the Irish shambles begins in earnest, leaving us scuttering about amongst the has-beens and never weres, desperately seeking a commitment - Farcical, and somewhat inevitable.
The way this wounded drunken sloth of a selection process is going, Wallonia, Gibraltar, The Basque country and Catalunya will have full FIFA membership before this embarrassing F.A.I. sponsored car crash diplomacy has limped over the finish line, and, as they happily take, oh, I dont know, say, Brady, Jol, Sanchez & Venables respectively; that leaves the Horiffic image of perma-unemployable Dave O Leary Cackling like a lunatic outside the Burlington, jumping for joy, screaming "AAAHH HA HA! you HAVE to give it to me now....Im the only one left! HAA HAA HAA!"
Truly Horrible.
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
He may well have been on the shortlist. But say he was talked to last week and told by the lads "Sure we'll be back to you in a month or so when we've talked to 15 or so has-beens and never-weres", he then gets a phone call from Mr Al Fayed saying "We want you to take the job - can we have a decision by close of play". Nobody could blame Hodgson for taking the bird in the hand.If Hodgson was approached he would have taken the job. It seems that wasn't even on the 16 man shortlist.
A 16 man shortlist is ridicukous anyway. There's no way these could all be candidates of equal ability. 3 or 4 should be the maximum number of people who merited an interview.
This should all have been sorted by Christmas.
If Jol's interested (which I would tend to doubt) I think he's the best candidate available.
We have 9 months before our first proper match. There's plenty of time to find a manager. England have gone for a quick fix, with a bloke who doesn't even speak the language.
There's no hurry to get a new boss. Better to take 6 months and get a suitable candidate, than one who jumps ship at the first opportunity.
Yea, plenty of time for Hodgson to fail at Fulham, Allardyce to fail at Newcastle, Southgate to fail at Middlesboro, then we will have plenty to choose from.
Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.
Agree with everything except the England bit as was said previously, they are much higher profile have more money and Capello from the start said he wanted the job - the EFA had a easier job. However
1. Money - the money the FAI are offering we should have more creditable candidates than the usual suspects
2. timescale - ideally before the fixtures meeting but since we are resticted to specific away dates because of Croke Park it might not be a major issue - but the longer this goes on the more money the FAI save
Are there no experienced/successfull continental coaches who fancy a challenge, would be taken to the nations heart if they get it right and the pay is pretty good given the amount of games ?
There is no way the selection committee is looking outside these islands - a real missed opportunity
Bottom of thr barrel again for us lads..we are the laughing stock of europe (if not the world)..thanks to Mr Delaney & co
I wonder if the delay is so that the FAI don't have to pay the new manager's wages all these months?
"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
If a new manager is appointed asap he will get the chance to watch our players in action and try out players in friendlies/familiarise players with a new system.
The longer we wait to make an appointment makes it more likely that the leading candidates are snapped up by other teams.
Utterly sickened by this news, was away at a wedding yesterday and only found out when I stuck on the telly in the hotel this morning. What the fook is that ***** Delaney playing at? I've no doubt he would have taken the job had he been offered it, I doubt very much if there's been any contact whatsoever with him so you can't blame him for taking up a job offer in the PL.
We all knew it anyway but we are being taken for mugs by this egotistical arsehole out in Abbotstown and our loyalty is being taken for granted, I've never felt as much like canceling my block booking as I do now.
Never thought I'd say it but I'd actually take O'Leary now although I'm just waiting for cockney w@nker to be wheeled out....
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I wasn't suggesting that we were playing at the same stakes table as England, just that for all their faults, the English F.A. seem to have taken on board that their last appointment wasn't of the standard required, (like ourselves to a certain extent) but Unlike us, they didn't bother arsing around for months organising shambolic "selection commit-tees " while all around them , managerless nations and clubs are signing contracts with available candidates left right and centre, leaving us to Choose between the remaining candidates ; David O Leary, who blames the players when he loses at subbuteo, Brendan Kilkenny, who thought the interviews were for the X factor, and a Yak.
On the way into the stadium, an elderly San Marino Steward waved us in and said "Tonight, may the best team win"
And they nearly did.
I think the chances of Europe laughing at us are practically nil.we are the laughing stock of europe (if not the world)..thanks to Mr Delaney & co
What leading candidates?
We were told that O'Leary was "certain" to get it, then Jewell was "certain" to get it, then Brady was "certain" to get it, then Venables was "certain" to get it, and there's still no white smoke.
A competent boss won't need 9 months to prepare for a game. Chances are he'll be familiar with the players already, and after a game or two, will have decided what his best team is. As for systems, there is no choice. As always, it will be 4-4-2. Our players can't play any other system.
Eventually, we'll end up with a manager, unlike the trainee we got last time. There's a very long time between now and September to find one.
What date is the fixtures meeting? We would want to have someone in by then?
Id like Houllier with Brady as his no. 2 Brady should also be u21 manager!
Hodgson has just been appointed Fulham manager, Houllier was offered the South Korea job, Haan has been appointed Albania manager. While we took over a month to appoint a selection committee and then interview a ridiculous amount of candidates the number of available managers in decreasing.
9 months? This isn't club management. The new manager will only get the games against Brazil and Serbia and a friendly in August to prepare. Hardly 9 months as you are trying to make out.A competent boss won't need 9 months to prepare for a game. Chances are he'll be familiar with the players already, and after a game or two, will have decided what his best team is. As for systems, there is no choice. As always, it will be 4-4-2. Our players can't play any other system.
What makes you think the new manager will be familiar with around 30 players? Chances are that the new manager will never have worked with most of our players. As for your comment about the system, that's just bull****.
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