Quigley and Sammo add to their U-21 caps

[Dodge]

You're talking to a man who follows a club who haven't won the fecking thing in 46 years...

I just think that the long term success of the club would be better served by playing in the Premier league than by winning the cup and getting relegated.

[Schumi]

You're talking to a man who follows a club who haven't won the fecking thing in 46 years...

Pats have won the league several (not getting into that argument!) times in the past 10 years, we've won nothing. You've seen Pats win the league and just about stay up, which meant more?

I just think that the long term success of the club would be better served by playing in the Premier league than by winning the cup and getting relegated.

It's a reasonable point but I want us to win something! Tbh, I think it boils down to the length of the stay in the first division. If we were to stay there for 10 years, I'd agree but I reckon it would only be for a year or two and in that case, the cup win would be worth to me.

[Dodge]

Pats have won the league several (not getting into that argument!) times in the past 10 years, we've won nothing. You've seen Pats win the league and just about stay up, which meant more?

Not really the same thing as you're never going to have the choice between the two. They both meant a lot at the time.

It's a reasonable point but I want us to win something!

have you tried overspending?

[John83]

have you tried overspending?

We're just not very good at it.

[pineapple stu]

have you tried overspending?

Remind me how 1984 came about?

Not to necessarily agree with schumi (though not going to disagree either), I'm assuming he's arguing on the basis that our club structure is such that, if we go down, we'll bounce straight back up again (like we did the last time). In that case, the question becomes one of whether you would pay for a Cup win with one successful season in the First Division.

[Dodge]

Not to necessarily agree with schumi (though not going to disagree either), I'm assuming he's arguing on the basis that our club structure is such that, if we go down, we'll bounce straight back up again (like we did the last time). In that case, the question becomes one of whether you would pay for a Cup win with one successful season in the First Division.

But structures guarentee you nothing...

[Student Mullet]

But structures guarentee you nothing...

Nor does overspending.

[Dodge]

Of course.

[Student Mullet]

Remind me how 1984 came about?

My understanding is that the Government used the fear of an enemy to convince the population to give up their freedoms but all records of the glorious revolution have since been 'corrected'.

[CollegeTillIDie]

'' It was the 4th of April 1984 and the clocks struck thirteen'' is something close to the opening line of 1984

[Student Mullet]

'' It was the 4th of April 1984 and the clocks struck thirteen'' is something close to the opening line of 1984

Good joke, I wish I'd thought of it!

[CollegeTillIDie]

have you tried overspending?

We don't do stupidity at UCD!

[CollegeTillIDie]

Nor does overspending.

it guarantees insolvency !

[pineapple stu]

But structures guarentee you nothing...

Course not. It's the chance you take in this purely hypothetical situation. But it's no fluke that we bounced straight back from relegation in '03 whereas other bigger clubs like Dundalk, Harps and Shels didn't.