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Unfortunately, young english talent costs way over the odds due to the general lack of it coming through, so its cheaper to go and get players from around the world and bring them in, and to be honest, the arsenal style requires players of a certain technical capacity which is, no offence to anyone, i think rarely seen in english talent, its just a continental thing, and thats the balance of those continental factors going up against and the english grit which makes the league so exciting to watch.Surely Arsene Wengers scouts could find some English talent and develope it.
But back on topic,As an arsenal fan, i think we're playing well, but its early days, you have to respect ferguson and united, but arsenal respect united, not fear united, which makes a big difference. Arsenal have a togetherness in the team not seen since the unbeaten run ( and yes before you mention it we do all know who ended it), but we shall see who wins in may. If we don't win it, its no big loss, wenger has built a team of youngsters, who if they stay together should dominate the league for years to come!
illiteracy and alphabet soup hmm?
First Scott Brown, now Carrick. If you're being serious you're clueless when it comes to football.
They have a few good English youngsters now though , the llikes of Kieran Gibbs and Rhys Murphy all look promising.Unfortunately, young english talent costs way over the odds due to the general lack of it coming through, so its cheaper to go and get players from around the world and bring them in, and to be honest, the arsenal style requires players of a certain technical capacity which is, no offence to anyone, i think rarely seen in english talent, its just a continental thing, and thats the balance of those continental factors going up against and the english grit which makes the league so exciting to watch.
But back on topic,
Wenger was in FourFourTwo this month saying that some of the English players in the national U-17 side are fantastic and that he's trying to get a few on board
Carrick is poor. Who would you rather have in your team? Fabregras or Carrick? Its not Wegners fault the foregin players are better quality than the English players. You hardly think he looks at thier nationality and says "oh no there english i wont sign them"
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technically english players wouldnt even be in the top 10/15 in the world as wenger likes his teams to play the game properly it makes sense to buy players who are technically better than english players.all wengers players only need 1 touch to control the ball and then its a pass most of the rest of the league need 2/3 touches to get it down then its a punt forward
Carrick is poor. Who would you rather have in your team? Fabregras or Carrick? Its not Wegners fault the foregin players are better quality than the English players. You hardly think he looks at thier nationality and says "oh no there english i wont sign them"Where did I mention anything about Fabregas?
Anyway there must be something in the water down in Limerick. Carrick is class, in my opinion better than Gerrard and Lampard. He is not the typical 'English midfielder' as he his technique and vision are the main parts of his game. He can also control a game from midfield. He is one of those players who always appears to have that extra second on the ball, which is down to his class.
come on now you have to be taken the ****
Anyway there must be something in the water down in Limerick. Carrick is class, in my opinion better than Gerrard and Lampard. He is not the typical 'English midfielder' as he his technique and vision are the main parts of his game. He can also control a game from midfield. He is one of those players who always appears to have that extra second on the ball, which is down to his class.
carrick better than gerrard and lampard
gerrard or lampard injured would be beter than him
all he can do is pass it to scholes, thats it, hes a joke.
Anyway there must be something in the water down in Limerick. Carrick is class, in my opinion better than Gerrard and Lampard. He is not the typical 'English midfielder' as he his technique and vision are the main parts of his game. He can also control a game from midfield. He is one of those players who always appears to have that extra second on the ball, which is down to his class.
I never said you mentioned anything about Fabregas but we were talking about the fact that Aresnal have a mostly all foregin team and my point was that why would Wenger buy English players when the players abroad are much cheaper and of a higher quality. And come off it, Carrick better than Lampard and Gerrard. In all fairness I know you said that to get your point across but you honestly cant think that. I know their different types of players but I know who id prefer to be in my team. Carricks apperances for England against those of Gerrards and Lampards speak for itself!! And on the something in the water comment, I think your mistaking Limerick for Galway
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I read a quote from Wenger recently saying that young continental footballers have better technque and more footballing intelligence than their English peers.
No England fan who doesn't support Chelsea would want Lampard in the team. He is imo not a good enough all rounder. Gerrard is class but I still wonder what his best position is. Wenger doesn't like English players David Bentley is a super midfielder and Wenger got ride of him because he liked to have a laugh. Pennant should have been kept at the club, after his mum died he had a rough time so what did Wenger do other than turf him out on his ear. Wenger wants foreigners because they are less trouble.I never said you mentioned anything about Fabregas but we were talking about the fact that Aresnal have a mostly all foregin team and my point was that why would Wenger buy English players when the players abroad are much cheaper and of a higher quality. And come off it, Carrick better than Lampard and Gerrard. In all fairness I know you said that to get your point across but you honestly cant think that. I know their different types of players but I know who id prefer to be in my team. Carricks apperances for England against those of Gerrards and Lampards speak for itself!! And on the something in the water comment, I think your mistaking Limerick for Galway
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Hmmm, yes. Pennant of course has been a resounding success at Liverpool.
He was given every chance at Arsenal and he blew it.
The likes of Bentley,Stokes,Muamba,Hoyte and Sidwell came through the ranks at Arsenal so itsnot like they have'nt been bringing players through.If they are not good enough to make it at first team level so be it.It would be foolish to play them just for the sake of it.When Man U won the champions league in 99 there was only four English players in the team.The Premiership would be poorer without the likes of Fabregas and Toure.Its only if clubs are importing inferior talent there is an issue.
9/18 in 99 compared (not including Paul Scholes who would have started) to 2/18 for arsenal 2006 vs barca.
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You're really hung up on this aspect aren't you? Why is it relevant?
I personally have always loved teams who win trophies using home grown players. AC Milan, Ajax, United, Barcelona, Marseille(although later relieved of the trophy) Porto, Bayern Munchen etc are all clubs you have to admire greatly. Home grown talent for me is the most important thing about a club is there any better feeling than seeing the young lad who signed for a club as a 12 year old go on to become a legend at a club. Thats what football is about after all not bringing half of Clairefontaine and Africa to a club in search of the holy grail.....
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In that case the ideal situation would be Rooney lining out for his boyhood club Everton not athe club most scousers grow up hating who paid millions for him.What about East End London boy Rio(35 million) Geordie Carrick (18 million)Tevez(not sure what his franchise fee is this year),Ronaldo(12 million)Nani&Anderson(40 million combined?)
Vidic,Evra,Saha,Hargreaves(25 million) and of course there was the whole Veron debacle.Yes there was the UTD golden gerneration which came through maybe ten years ago but Arsenal had keown,Adams,Parlour,Cole etc.
Man U are no Ajax they are the biggest buyers of ready made talent after Chelsea.I prefer Wengers method of identifying raw talent and developing them into great players.Whether they are English or not is irrelevant.
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