Bring it on

**Partizan** · 20/11/2007, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_T

I know its midweek, but a club which only brings 15 fans to a relegation playoff doesn't deserve to stay up! I'm genuinely shocked at that!

What an utterly stupid comment to make, just because we cant get off work on a Tuesday night and travel the bones of a 600 mile round trip means that we should be automatically relegated. What kind of logic is that. We are in the Premier and we will stay there. Not so long ago when Harps were in dire straits they could barely muster up a couple of hundred....... in Finn Park of all places. Our attendances despite being at the wrong end of the table for the vast majority of the season is not so bad, coming in at around 1100-1200 per home game which represents our hardcore.

Speaking of what you can bring to the Premier, well lets see, your ground is an absolute dump and your main stand resembles a desolate haybarn. Have you any solid plans for moving or renovation or is it all just pie in the sky.

and we thought the C/\wkies talked utter tripe.

**dcfcsteve** · 20/11/2007, 2:56 PM

Originally Posted by Partizan

What an utterly stupid comment to make, just because we cant get off work on a Tuesday night and travel the bones of a 600 mile round trip means that we should be automatically relegated. What kind of logic is that. We are in the Premier and we will stay there. Not so long ago when Harps were in dire straits they could barely muster up a couple of hundred....... in Finn Park of all places. Our attendances despite being at the wrong end of the table for the vast majority of the season is not so bad, coming in at around 1100-1200 per home game which represents our hardcore.

Speaking of what you can bring to the Premier, well lets see, your ground is an absolute dump and your main stand resembles a desolate haybarn. Have you any solid plans for moving or renovation or is it all just pie in the sky.

and we thought the C/\wkies talked utter tripe.

C'mon Partizan - toys back in the pram dude. It's very difficult to disagree with the jist of what he's saying.

This is a vitally important set of games for Waterford, so to have your fans talking about a home capacity of 1,500 not selling out and only a couple of handfuls travelling to the away game is very poor no matter what way you look at it.

As for Harps stadium plans - they've been well-documented on here and you can find them easily yourself if you're keen to know, rather than just looking for something to lash out about.

**sligoman** · 20/11/2007, 2:57 PM

10-15 people is embarassing for such an important match. Do Waterford fans travel outside of Dublin?

**cheifo** · 20/11/2007, 3:08 PM

The problem with these arguments is that the people who make huge effort to support their club through thick and thin feel they have to make excuses for the people who dont

**Mr_T** · 20/11/2007, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by cheifo

The problem with these arguments is that the people who make huge effort to support their club through thick and thin feel they have to make excuses for the people who dont

Yeah, look that was probably a bit harsh Partizan, and obviously Waterfords die hard fans, board management and players deserve to stay up if they win these games. But I'm genuinely shocked that so few would travel and attend at home for such a vital game, regardless of night of week or distance.

We've a fair bit of experience of playoff and this will be by far the lowest away crowd in FP for one.

**dcfcsteve** · 20/11/2007, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by cheifo

The problem with these arguments is that the people who make huge effort to support their club through thick and thin feel they have to make excuses for the people who dont

Not necessarily.

The bigger a fan-base then the bigger the number of students, self-employed, unemployed, idle rich, people who work funny days/hours etc etc. In otherwords, the more people who can make a vitally important game even if it is on a Tuesday.

Surely the Waterford fan-base can russle up more than 10-15 people who have the time, means and the desire to support their team in such an important game ?!?

**Blue-Army** · 20/11/2007, 3:53 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

10-15 people is embarassing for such an important match. Do Waterford fans travel outside of Dublin?

Be realistic.....Its about 8hours on a bus....and its on a tuesday..Most people have work or school...

The game should be on Friday...with the next leg on the following Friday...

**Mr A** · 20/11/2007, 4:07 PM

That wouldn't really help people travelling that much- Saturday would be better. Also, it would mean WUFC having to pay wages for an extra 3 weeks after the season, with only one home gate in that time and one very long trip.

**Tis-smeee** · 20/11/2007, 5:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_T

I know its midweek, but a club which only brings 15 fans to a relegation playoff doesn't deserve to stay up! I'm genuinely shocked at that!

Our game in Waterford is also on a weeknight, albeit a Friday and already we have 50 fans booked on the official club trip, with at least one other busload going. With cars and fans from Dublin, Cork etc we should have 250-300 minimum, maybe quite a few more.

If it was a Tuesday maybe half that figure would have made it, but 15!!!! UCD would have brought more.

TG

I wont even start on that load of nonsense

**Poor Student** · 20/11/2007, 7:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_T

If it was a Tuesday maybe half that figure would have made it, but 15!!!! UCD would have brought more.

No we wouldn't. At this stage Waterford have put in two relegation worthy seasons, their support is bound to be shrinking as would any club in their situation. Also given the distance, the time of the year and the day of the match it's a believable figure. People really need to stop castigating clubs for the support they do or rather that they don't bring to away games.

**onephillyhughes** · 20/11/2007, 9:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Man Himself

harps or dundalk havent a hope in the play offs.
waterford are a class above any of them and play the 2nd leg at the rsc.

come on you blues.

You were saying?

**CollegeTillIDie** · 20/11/2007, 9:07 PM

People tend to forget that Waterford is 100 miles away from Dublin. They then face another 160 odd mile trek to Ballybofey. So for some fans who don't live in Waterford City it can easily be almost 400 miles round trip. It means a day off work.
A lot of people working in the City and county of Waterford are on shifts.
They have probably already re-arranged a number of shifts already this year, just to get to home games. I think the attacks on their support for only being able to muster 15 or so bods on a Tuesday night in the frozen North West is nothing short of riduculous!

**Sonic** · 20/11/2007, 9:10 PM

delighted for that cnut in particular! Humble pie my friend!

**Sam_Heggy** · 20/11/2007, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by The Man Himself

harps or dundalk havent a hope in the play offs.
waterford are a class above any of them and play the 2nd leg at the rsc.

come on you blues.

You sir have made yourself look a right muppet.

Originally Posted by Mental Man

If you saw what i saw up in Buckley Park last night,utter tripe, i have no doubts the Blues will win the playoffs .
To be honest, i do feel sorry for Longford and what happened, with the fightback they made in the last few games they deserve to be in the playoffs or just stay up, hard luck lads , keep the faith.

Different opinion now by any chance?

**harpskid** · 20/11/2007, 11:47 PM

Mental Man - aptly named!

**Risteard** · 21/11/2007, 2:58 AM

I don't know where that confdence came from.
Is Cronin gone or not and what did he say in the interview?

**stann** · 21/11/2007, 4:04 AM

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

People tend to forget that Waterford is 100 miles away from Dublin. They then face another 160 odd mile trek to Ballybofey. So for some fans who don't live in Waterford City it can easily be almost 400 miles round trip. It means a day off work.
A lot of people working in the City and county of Waterford are on shifts.
They have probably already re-arranged a number of shifts already this year, just to get to home games. I think the attacks on their support for only being able to muster 15 or so bods on a Tuesday night in the frozen North West is nothing short of riduculous!

Correct. 525 mile round trip to be exact. And a day and a half or two days off work for some. I got back just over an hour ago and was only hitting the road in spots. And for that!
I'll never learn.