FAI Cup final may not go ahead?!

[DRDoc]

This all seems a major over reaction to me

Cant see Cork pulling out

[Poor Student]

How long did you wait to use a word like that and why is it relevant to this topic?

It's a joke about the nature in which Pat's got into the Setanta Cup.

[Dodge]

I'd assume Bohs would be as the Semi-finalist who we beat.
On what basis would Pat's get in?

After we had the points deduction, to stop us taking league action over the FAI/league failure to act when the Report showed other clubns had breached regulations, the FAi/league inserted a clause that

"any clubs is demoted from the league, or fails to finish a cup competition, St. Patrick's Athletic will be favoured in all cases"

Worked last year

[jebus]

Lads I'm gonna use the same nonsense that has been used on me whenever I questioned the promotion situation last year

You ****ing signed up with the FAI like the rest of us so stop ****ing moaning

Lovely league we have here, it really is

[Martinho II]

The other side.

The Football Association of Ireland wishes to clarify several issues that have arisen in relation to the financial package on offer to the finalists in the 2007 FAI Ford Cup Final.

At a meeting in Portmarnock on Wednesday, October 10, between the FAI and representatives of the four semi-finalists – Bohemians, Cork City, Longford Town and UCD - the financial package for the finalists was outlined in detail and accepted by the clubs.

The FAI proposed that the winner of the competition would be guaranteed a minimum payment of €100,000 and the runners-up a minimum payment of €75,000. It was explained that this some would cover prize-money, TV revenue and a share of the surplus with the FAI making up the shortfall, if any, to guarantee the agreed payment.

These guaranteed payments represent a substantial increase on the monies paid to the 2006 finalists where the winners received €45,000 in prize money and television revenue and the runners-up got €39,000.

The two clubs also shared a €37,000 gate surplus.

The FAI completely refutes any suggestion that it is in breach of the rules of the competition and is expressly disappointed at the actions of the Cork City Board on this matter.



It looks like we've a proper stand-off on our hands here.
Nothing heard from Longfords end?

Why would the FAI call it a minimum payment whilst spelling out that it covered gates, prize money and tv revenue?

just spoke to a commitee member earlier we are backing cork city on this as well! hopefully there will be a compromise!

[A face]

You ****ing signed up with the FAI like the rest of us so stop ****ing moaning

Yeah, we only want what we signed up for, the gate receipts. Will you have a word with them for us?

[superfrank]

Yeah, we only want what we signed up for, the gate receipts. Will you have a word with them for us?

I think the point he's making is you can't take everything they say as concrete promises, although we all want to believe that.

World class manager anyone?

[jebus]

I think the point he's making is you can't take everything they say as concrete promises, although we all want to believe that.

World class manager anyone?

Thankfully someone around here isn't an over reactionary from Cork

[sonofstan]

just spoke to a commitee member earlier we are backing cork city on this as well! hopefully there will be a compromise!

So Poor Student, Schumi, CTID et al...... see you in the RDS?

[pineapple stu]

Yep, UCD v Bohs final. Wouldn't say no!

[jebus]

Wouldn't it be funny if the FAI booted both Cork and Longford and just made up a final, say Finn Harps vs Castlebar Celtic, and started talking about Castlebar's magical run to the cup final, I know I'd get a chuckle or two anyway

[Celdrog]

just spoke to a commitee member earlier we are backing cork city on this as well! hopefully there will be a compromise!

Why did nobody complain when it was discussed before the semi finals?
Looks to me like the FAI are giving what they always did but are guaranteeing it will be made up to €100,000 minimum. Seems like a very good deal for the clubs. I've never seen it anywhere the prizemoney would be €100k. I did see that the winners would get €100k, although I stand to be corrected on this.
Small crowd -winners get €100,000. Big crowd - winners get more than €100,000.

Looks like Cork want €100k if they win plus the share of the gate. FFS it was only €100k for coming second in the league, Get real

[Sonic]

Dont care it will only be an anticlimax to a **** season

[A face]

I think the point he's making is you can't take everything they say as concrete promises, although we all want to believe that.

What do you mean promises? Am i missing something here?

For the record, i am referring to the FAIs rules for the competition, you know the ones ..... the ones we all have to adhere to.

What are the promises you are on about? Is this from a newspaper article or something

World class manager anyone?

Have you posted in the wrong thread or something? Or are you referring to the FAI's problem with the Irish Managers position? Come on Frank, help us out here man will ya.

[A face]

Thankfully someone around here isn't an over reactionary from Cork

What's reactionary about it? Its the FAI's rules we are talking about here yeah?


Do someone merge these posts into the wrong thread or something? Or can someone fill me in on what the lads are going on about?

[A face]

Wouldn't it be funny if the FAI booted both Cork and Longford

The court case would keep us occupied in the close season anyway. We could try and sort out a webcam or something to see the court proceedings, for the laugh

[jebus]

What do you mean promises? Am i missing something here?

For the record, i am referring to the FAIs rules for the competition, you know the ones ..... the ones we all have to adhere to.

Are company guidelines laid out in rulebooks nothing more than promises to their people? And since the FAI have a history of doing things as they please I think SuperFrank is saying that the FAI changing the goalposts to suit their needs is not entirely a shocking revelation. H eprobably mentions Staunton and the World Class manager because it was one of the more high profile of such cases in recent times.

For my point my original comment was aimed at people who like to tow the party line when it doesn't affect their club. Last year quite a lot of people on here, a few Corkies included, were banging on about the FAI agreement, how it's a new dawn etc. Fast forward to this year and the picture isn't quite so rosy and now that shower's motto (the one I've already mentioned) has come back to bite them on the ass. Well I saw tough titties*

* Not sure if you are one of the people I'm on about A Face, so that's not meant as a personal attack

What's reactionary about it? Its the FAI's rules we are talking about here yeah?


Do someone merge these posts into the wrong thread or something? Or can someone fill me in on what the lads are going on about?

Sure why not? Perfect end of season chuckle for this joke shop of a league

[A face]

Why did nobody complain when it was discussed before the semi finals?

That's the whole issue right there. I think the FAI might have just sprung this one on us. City wouldn't have signed up for it.

The FAI's own rules state that it cant be changed either.

Looks to me like the FAI are giving what they always did but are guaranteeing it will be made up to €100,000 minimum.

But if thats the case then they need to tell people that. The rule book hasn't been changed.

People should confuse prize money with gate receipts, two totally separate issues.

Seems like a very good deal for the clubs.

Again, where are the details of this deal? We've only got the rules book to go on.

I've never seen it anywhere the prizemoney would be €100k. I did see that the winners would get €100k, although I stand to be corrected on this.

Prize money is good fair play to them. Now .... about those gate receipts ....

Small crowd -winners get €100,000. Big crowd - winners get more than €100,000.

Exactly ..... prize money AND gate receipts

Looks like Cork want €100k if they win plus the share of the gate. FFS it was only €100k for coming second in the league, Get real

We are only compiling with the rules .... surely you wouldn't want us to break them would you???

[A face]

Are company guidelines laid out in rulebooks nothing more than promises to their people? And since the FAI have a history of doing things as they please

I dont think Aidan Tynan is going to see it like that. He wont be pushed over that easily.

I think SuperFrank is saying that the FAI changing the goalposts to suit their needs is not entirely a shocking revelation. He probably mentions Staunton and the World Class manager because it was one of the more high profile of such cases in recent times.

The FAI are the administrators of the league .... they have been entrusted to administrate the league and their own competitions. Their portfolio of fawkups should have no bearing on this issue.

For my point my original comment was aimed at people who like to tow the party line when it doesn't affect their club. Last year quite a lot of people on here, a few Corkies included, were banging on about the FAI agreement, how it's a new dawn etc. Fast forward to this year and the picture isn't quite so rosy and now that shower's motto (the one I've already mentioned) has come back to bite them on the ass. Well I saw tough titties*

* Not sure if you are one of the people I'm on about A Face, so that's not meant as a personal attack

I wasn't but to be honest i wasn't happy the way Limerick FC was dealt with before that. This was basically the FAI stamping all over the small fella in their own interests. You wouldn't see that kind of administration in Columbia. This just shows how vulnerable every club is. Their nazi style antics forced a club out of existence and no one baited an eyelid.

If Tynan is willing to stand up to them then i say fair play to him. And it would definitely need someone who is not afraid of being litigious to do so.

I am sick to the back teeth of all these fines and code of silence and never ending list of fawkups from them. There is always something with them.

Drag them kickin' and screaming into a decent administered league if it has to be done but we have to get there. Sponsors and investors wont touch us otherwise.

Sure why not? Perfect end of season chuckle for this joke shop of a league

If you cant laugh then you'd cry. They are a disaster.

[jebus]

The FAI are the administrators of the league .... they have been entrusted to administrate the league and their own competitions. Their portfolio of fawkups should have no bearing on this issue.

And there's our problem, entrusting this league and our clubs to the FAI, with their history, it was, and still is, going to end in tears. Cork and Longford are just the latest in the line of clubs who have been shafted by the FAI in just one year, imagine what they will do over a ten year period.

For the record I agree with Cork on this issue, I'm having a go at different people in this thread. And thankfully someone on an Eircom League forum can see that Limerick FC were royally screwed by the FAI last season. I was never a fan of Danny Drew, but the FAI kicking Limerick FC out last year just so they could get rid of Danny himself set a benchmark to other clubs and their chairmen for what they will be about for years to come