Ted, I'm hugely confused.
I can see why.Originally Posted by amaccann
However, if nothing has changed then the FAI can carry on picking players from the North - providing they have Irish citizenship. Nothing happened to the FAI over Gibson, e.g. no points deducted for the Slovakia game.
In fact FIFA offered the IFA a carrot to leave the matter alone, and they turned it down. No doubt they'll be back whinging when the next player from Derry, Belfast etc. is picked for us, but for now let the w*nkers think they've won.
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ls/7147228.stmThe Irish FA will have to go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport if it wants to continue its row with the FAI over player eligibility.
right now thats cleared up and the IFA have won the eligibility battle , who do we pick next from up there ? anyone good on the horizon ?
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
So its official. The IFA claiming to have won! Pathetic!!
"Unionist politicians claimed that Fifa rules allowing Northern Ireland-born players to play for the Republic could "sectarianise" the Northern Ireland team".
So, as I understand it: ROI has been allowed by FIFA to field-Northern born players that do not meet the usual criteria (birth, parents' / grandparents' birth, residence). That was the case before all the fuss was made over Gibson. Recently they suggested a cociliatory or compromise "it can go both ways": NI can select ROI-born players in the same way.
Now FIFA says that no change is warranted, meaning ROI can pick NI born players but NI can not pick ROI born players. So NI wins, how?
I think we should now step it up a level: select players already capped at senior level for NI but before it was clarified that such players could have played for ROI!
You maybe need to re-read the rules.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
It is my rudimentry understanding in that
1. Gibson is eligible as indeed any northern born player is as he falls under the dual nationality remit and thus can chose who he plays for and can switch once before the age of 21.
2. The 4 No criteria brought in wrt Qatar are for players changing nationalities - since anybody born in the North has an automatic right to Irish citizenship and has always been there is no question of them changing nationalities.
3. The GFA has sweet FA to do with it. Automatic Irish citzenship before GFA, automatic citzenship after GFA - no change, it is a red herring
4. FAI argued that the current rules should apply (dual nationality), IFA argued that the Qatar criteria be applied as it is changing nationalities
5. The IFA have argued that you can be Irish and British or both and play for NI - where does the changing nationalities come into it that they are arguing - How is Darren Gibson changing nationalities
Correct.
The 4 criteria also apply in respect of players whose nationality entitles them to play for >1 team. This is the bit that confused the IFA, who thought this applied to dual nationality - but it doesn't: it applies to a players whose single nationality qualifies them for more than one team.
100% correct. Emotive red herring introduced by nationalists.
Second part wrong - see my response to 2 above.
They're not arguing about changing nationalities. See my response to 2 above.
So bottom line. Ireland have a 32 county pick. Those who want to play for Ireland are welcome. Those that want to play with the north can bugger off!
It doesn't.
No. Republic of Ireland has a 32 county pick.
Nobody says "Republic of" and nobody should as the team represents 32 counties as clairified by FIFA
That's basically the height of it.
The Republic Of Ireland have a 32 County pick, within the relevant rules laid down by FIFA ie. Article 15.
From a Northern Ireland perspective, I will be happy to see players who are not totally committed to playing for Northern Ireland "bugger off".
I don't expect to see too many players defect to the Republic Of Ireland teams.
Since this dispute arose, we've actually gained two back.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Here we go again ....
Ask them what your team is called.Nobody says "Republic of" and nobody should as the team represents 32 counties as clairified by FIFA
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Neither do I. Northern Ireland produces 1 or 2 players every generation that might get their game with Ireland. Those two boys that went back to Northern Ireland realised this - they knew there're not good enough to get a game with the Irish A team.
That's simply untrue.
It doesn't.
Ireland? Do you mean Republic of Ireland?
How did you find you way to this forum?
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