Eligibility proposal

[lopez]

If I may quote Sam McAughtry '' My political affiliation may be British, but culturally I am Irish.

Political affiliation is what counts when playing for national football teams. Otherwise Ali G could play for Jamaica, Aye?!

[antrimgreen]

[QUOTE=lopez;819995]
Ironically it is known as a British passport even to the people that issue it. I rest my case. (BTW, my passport says 'Ireland', not 'Republic of Ireland' )
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Quality Lopez, Irish passport, none of this ROI or NI bull, 2 nationalities British or Irish, and anyone that possesses a British passport have gave up their sole right to complete Irish independence. My passport if you are in any doubt it says Eire on the front.

Once again you share the same passport as the English/Scottish/Welsh and you share the same anthem, thats no way to live. I have no doubt you are Irish just the political climate you have been brought up in has warped your mind into thinking that you are British, and on some occasions you want to be Irish and then when it suits your British, i bet you this if you were caught up in the middle east and had an Irish and a British passport we all know which passport your going to whip out.

[Gather round]

culturally I am Irish. There is no such thing as British culture, only English, Scottish and Welsh cultures

Nice soundbite Sam, but a bit silly. Still, another Duncairn Gardens man, so I can't criticise too much

So you are fine about the relegation of Irish to a 'regionalism'?

I'm from a region of Ireland. I have no problem with others whether unionist or nationalist seeing it differently, provided they don't tell me I'm not Irish (or British).

Apologies. Although, I always thought of you as a (British) Republican

I am. I was just reminding you that Belfast (like London, dunno about other Brit cities) has both a Queen and Empress/Great Victoria Street.

However, if by some fluke we qualify tonight, I expect the latter to be renamed Latvia Avenue

anyone that possesses a British passport have gave up their sole right to complete Irish independence

Not sure I understand this, but you do realise individuals can have joint nationality?

the political climate you have been brought up in has warped your mind into thinking that you are British, and on some occasions you want to be Irish and then when it suits your British

Nothing's warped my mind. I am both 100% Irish and 100% British. On all occasions I am both, I don't feel any need to deny nor exaggerate either.

i bet you this if you were caught up in the middle east and had an Irish and a British passport we all know which passport your going to whip out

I very much doubt an Irish passport would be much greater protection than a British (or many other western countries) in the current situation.

[antrimgreen]

What is your nationality then Gather?

I do realise that some people have obtained 2 passports, but having 2 nationalities IMO is a load of happy horse sh*t and this kind of jarken is only used by those who are confused.

[micls]

What is your nationality then Gather?

I do realise that some people have obtained 2 passports, but having 2 nationalities IMO is a load of happy horse sh*t and this kind of jarken is only used by those who are confused.

What exactly is wrong with having 2 nationalities? I'm confused as to why it's horseshi*t exactly?

My brother has dual nationality. His mother is Irish and father is English. What exactly is the problem? Or is he only allowed be one or the other by your rules?

[antrimgreen]

Read the post i clearly stated that it was In My Opinion IMO. So your brother if asked the question would declare that he is Irish-British, fair enough each to their own.

[micls]

Read the post i clearly stated that it was In My Opinion IMO. So your brother if asked the question would declare that he is Irish-British, fair enough each to their own.

And Im asking you to explain your opinion. As in why you think that?

I dunno, he's only 7 so I dont think he's been doing any deep thinking about the question but if he did I fail to see the problem...or why that would somehow make him confused as you said.

[gustavo]

fair enough each to their own.

you said 2 posts above about a person from the North to consider themselves as British
"I have no doubt you are Irish just the political climate you have been brought up in has warped your mind into thinking that you are British,"

Hardly an each to their own attitude

[antrimgreen]

So your brother never said he has dual nationality, it's you thats saying he has.

I just find it starnge IMO that some people have 2 nationalities. Sh*t one when both their nationalities are playing each other in a competitive match, support 1 in the first half and the other in the second??

[paul_oshea]

No, ye buy a reversible jersey!

[antrimgreen]

Nice 1 Paul.

What ever team is attacking you stick that side on, Jesus you would be wrecked if it was end to end action

[Dodge]

I just find it starnge IMO that some people have 2 nationalities. Sh*t one when both their nationalities are playing each other in a competitive match, support 1 in the first half and the other in the second??

Because really, thats all a nationality is.

I'd get passports for every country I could. Just as a safegurd.

Except a British one obviously. Can't see how that'd help me..

[micls]

So your brother never said he has dual nationality, it's you thats saying he has.

Well he does consider himself half Irish/half english but he's a bit young to understand any further than that.

I just find it strange IMO that some people have 2 nationalities.

Well there's a difference between finding it strange and calling it horsesh*t anf calling those who feel like this confused.

As you said above, each to their own.Some couldnt care one way or another

Sh*t one when both their nationalities are playing each other in a competitive match, support 1 in the first half and the other in the second??

Or support neither. You win either way. He's not hugely into sport yet. Supports both England and Ireland when they're playing other teams but wouldnt be bothered one way or the other.

Maybe youd have a team you prefer based on players or something. I dunno.

Doesnt affect those above though as they only have one national team to support so one less reason not to have dual nationality

[youngirish]

The question that really has to be answered by anyone with dual nationality is who would you fight for in a war? Or would you play both sides off each other like Clint Eastwood in a Fistful of Dollars?

[geysir]

Because really, thats all a nationality is.

I'd get passports for every country I could. Just as a safegurd.

Except a British one obviously. Can't see how that'd help me..

Depends on the shít storm and where. I don´t know if you have much experience dealing with Embassy staff.

If I have the choice and my survival depended upon receiving immediate assistance, I would without hesitation choose to contact our old colonial masters in the British Consulate.
Who would you choose, possibly some lickspittle pimply young squirt of a bogman in a cheap suit or some living remnant of the masters of cheat and conquer who is just itching to demonstrate that he hasn't lost the knack and delights to show off with a few tricks up the old sleeve?

[lopez]

culturally I am Irish. There is no such thing as British culture, only English, Scottish and Welsh cultures

Nice soundbite Sam, but a bit silly. Still, another Duncairn Gardens man, so I can't criticise too much.

When I hear the word 'culture', I reach for my gun.

So you are fine about the relegation of Irish to a 'regionalism'?

I'm from a region of Ireland. I have no problem with others whether unionist or nationalist seeing it differently, provided they don't tell me I'm not Irish (or British).

I noticed that someone has asked your nationality (you know the word that you put down on the landing card when you go to America or wherever), and you didn't answer. Do you have dual nationality? (i.e. opted for dual nationality, because in the PC post-GFA era, we don't want to call people Irish who don't think they are).

And if you (and Blanchflower and the eloquent EG) feel so strongly about being Irish, then respect the demographic wish of all Irish people at partition not to have their country partitioned and not be part of Britain.

Apologies. Although, I always thought of you as a (British) Republican

I am. I was just reminding you that Belfast (like London, dunno about other Brit cities) has both a Queen and Empress/Great Victoria Street.

However, if by some fluke we qualify tonight, I expect the latter to be renamed Latvia Avenue.

Sadly it will have to remain Calle de la Empresa Vitoria. BTW, parts of La Coruna (like most Spanish cities) are to have some new street names shortly when Avenida General Mola, Avenida General Sanjurjo, Calle de General Millan Astray (good Coruna man, not very good human being) etc, are dropped. I think 'Avenida Gerry Armstrong' will not be one of them but I'm hoping 'Avenida Roberto Lopez Ufarte' is there.

anyone that possesses a British passport have gave up their sole right to complete Irish independence

Not sure I understand this, but you do realise individuals can have joint nationality?

Joint/Dual British/Irish nationality means you are an Irish citizen. I doubt Blanchflower would steep to that though, especially as he considers the 26C 'a foreign country'. I wouldn't put it past you, as I've seen you at more Ireland games in recent years than certain 'genuine' supporters.

the political climate you have been brought up in has warped your mind into thinking that you are British, and on some occasions you want to be Irish and then when it suits your British

Nothing's warped my mind. I am both 100% Irish and 100% British. On all occasions I am both, I don't feel any need to deny nor exaggerate either.

And 100% NI. Is this mathematically possible? Surely 33.333333333333333% each?

i bet you this if you were caught up in the middle east and had an Irish and a British passport we all know which passport your going to whip out

I very much doubt an Irish passport would be much greater protection than a British (or many other western countries) in the current situation.

I agree. Best stay out of Offaly altogether.

[paul_oshea]

Depends on the shít storm and where. I don´t know if you have much experience dealing with Embassy staff.

If I have the choice and my survival depended upon receiving immediate assistance, I would without hesitation choose to contact our old colonial masters in the British Consulate.
Who would you choose, possibly some lickspittle pimply young squirt of a bogman in a cheap suit or some living remnant of the masters of cheat and conquer who is just itching to demonstrate that he hasn't lost the knack and delights to show off with a few tricks up the old sleeve?

I think, Dodge, was trying to be smart here hence the "..." given the thread it was in.

Dodge, is a master of sarcasm, didnt ye know

[Dodge]

Depends on the shít storm and where. I don´t know if you have much experience dealing with Embassy staff.

A lot and the British are excellent.

As POS helpfully pointed out, I was kidding

[Gather round]

I noticed that someone has asked your nationality (you know the word that you put down on the landing card when you go to America or wherever), and you didn't answer

Apologies, oversight not deliberate. My nationality (including for border crossing purposes) is British. If the card says UK I delete it, being a lifelong
republican.

My slight irk visiting German-speaking countries is having a real name that translates as funny ha ha. Always gives the Pass kontrol a laugh.

Do you have dual nationality? (i.e. opted for dual nationality, because in the PC post-GFA era, we don't want to call people Irish who don't think they are

No, I don't have nationality of the Republic of Ireland. No need, really, is there?

And if you (and Blanchflower and the eloquent EG) feel so strongly about being Irish, then respect the demographic wish of all Irish people at partition not to have their country partitioned and not be part of Britain

If/ when enough of us in/ from NI support joing the Republic of Ireland, partition may end. My money would be on San Marino winning a qualifier first

Avenida General Mola, Avenida General Sanjurjo, Calle de General Millan Astray (good Coruna man, not very good human being) etc, are dropped.

Madrid's Avenida Mola was renamed years ago, (back?) to Claudio Coello (old master artist).

he considers the 26C 'a foreign country'. I wouldn't put it past you, as I've seen you at more Ireland games in recent years than certain 'genuine' supporters

So do I. I am considering coming out of retirement as a NI fan now that we're likely to be rubbish again...

And 100% NI. Is this mathematically possible? Surely 33.333333333333333% each?

Yes, it's arithmetically possible. They don't contradict one another.

[geysir]

As POS helpfully pointed out, I was kidding

Does that mean there is no poster called Bunreacht?