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    Quote Originally Posted by Blanchflower View Post
    You've been bothered up until now.

    No, it's not a joke.
    lol if you answer the first question then......

    a well there's always one as they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian View Post
    lol if you answer the first question then......
    would you please, please move on. He was answering my rhetorical question with rhetorical questions of his own.
    a well there's always one as they say.
    too bloody true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie View Post
    What has the colour Green got to do with Catholicism?.

    If the flag was designed with the guidelines you're suggesting there'd be Marian Blue or Papal Yellow in it.

    The green is supposed to represent Irish Nationalism ...with no reference whatsoever to the religious affiliation, if any, of the Nationalist people.
    And what does the orange represent? Or the white between the orange and the green? I think you need to check your history. For right or wrong that was thinking behind it at the time, I'm obviously being simplistic about it here but they're the basic facts.

    The green pale in the flag symbolises the older majority Gaelic tradition of Ireland, made up mainly of Roman Catholics. Green had always been associated with Ireland as a nation, and with the revolutionary groups within it. A flag of Green, Blue and Orange was suggested around the same time to symbolise Catholics, Presbetyrians and Protestants of the established church, religion and the indentity it gave people were serious considerations in those days.

    Nationalism in itself was multi denominational but relegion played a part in the designing of it's symbols for precisely those reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    would you please, please move on. He was answering my rhetorical question with rhetorical questions of his own.too bloody true.
    You have a lot to worry about in life i see!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er View Post
    And what does the orange represent? Or the white between the orange and the green? I think you need to check your history. For right or wrong that was thinking behind it at the time, I'm obviously being simplistic about it here but they're the basic facts.
    The orange represents the tradition of Wilhem of Orange: British Unionism in Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er View Post
    The green pale in the flag symbolises the older majority Gaelic tradition of Ireland, made up mainly of Roman Catholics. Green had always been associated with Ireland as a nation, and with the revolutionary groups within it.
    Shhhh.

    FFS Northern Ireland fans will be deserting our team in their droves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    The orange represents the tradition of Wilhem of Orange: British Unionism in Ireland.
    Was the Battle Of The Boyne not a squabble between two slightly different factions of exactly the same religion?

    And..was William of Orange Dutch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Was the Battle Of The Boyne not a squabble between two slightly different factions of exactly the same religion?
    No, it was a squabble between two "thrones" of England. One throne happened to be protestant, the other catholic.

    And..was William of Orange Dutch?
    Of course he was, Orange is in the Netherlands. Mind you, the current English royal family are german and greek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    No, it was a squabble between two "thrones" of England. One throne happened to be protestant, the other catholic.
    What were these "thrones" getting their respective knickers in a twist about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    The orange represents the tradition of Wilhem of Orange: British Unionism in Ireland.
    It was a rhetorical question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    I propose that this thread be locked.

    The Eligibility issue is overdone and dusted
    Agreed, this is the sort of stuff the 'trolls' love.

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    We at 1690 now
    you boys move fast, whats next King Arthur?
    Dodge's missus must have him cleaning the house from top to bottom.
    anthems flags king billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    What were these "thrones" getting their respective knickers in a twist about?
    Power, clearly. Unless you truly believe each man was on a mission from God to restore faith to the hallowed land of the Angles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    We at 1690 now
    you boys move fast, whats next King Arthur?
    I'd imagine someone will be insinuating that the Roman part of Roman Catholic is represented by the red in the Union Jack.
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    Smile

    Who needs to go to school when you get your very own Irish and Brtish history in Foot.ie

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    Power, clearly. Unless you truly believe each man was on a mission from God to restore faith to the hallowed land of the Angles.
    Cheers Gav.
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    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    I'd imagine someone will be insinuating that the Roman part of Roman Catholic is represented by the red in the Union Jack.
    What did the Roman Catholics ever do for us? Eh?

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    what do the colours of the Union Jack represent anyway???

    anyone???? have to know this before xmas!!!!!!

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    so anyone born in northern ireland can now declare for the republic of ireland , correct?
    seems very strange to me as we do not give automatic citizenship to those born in the republic....
    Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernian View Post
    what do the colours of the Union Jack represent anyway???

    anyone???? have to know this before xmas!!!!!!
    The red of the St. Patrick's Cross (the saltire, or "X") represents Ireland and is actually the arms of the FitzGerald family.
    The blue of the inverse saltire of the St. Andrews Cross represents Scotland. The origin of the blue isn't properly known, but Picts (one of few actual Briton tribes in history) painted themselves blue with woad before battle and i'd imagine they continued this tradition on when things became more civilised than fighting in nothing more than battle paint.
    The red cross of the St. George's Cross represents England and is owed, ironically, to the Pope and to France. The Pope awarded each crusading nation a distinguishing shield; he gave France a red cross on a white flag, and england the reverse, a red flag with a white cross. However, the English preferred France's white purity and used that same flag anyway; and by the time the idea of flags and colours really took hold of nationalism, France had swapped to the tricolour anyway, nulling any possible clash of the old rivals over who got to keep the St. George's cross.

    Interesting is Wales' omission.
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