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    CM4 Experiment - First Season Finished

    Just to recap:
    As an experiment I decided to have a crack at importing a few of the top sides from the LoI into the English Third Division.

    I've imported St Pats, Bohs, Shels and Rovers into the English
    Third and they all did pretty well - Bohs get promoted as Champions of Div 3 and Pats & Shels are in the play-offs. Rovers finished 15th.


    http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bohemians/cm4/thirddiv.jpg

    All I can say is, the English Leagues are ****-easy with an Irish club! (Scoring 155 goals in 46 games and ending up with a GD of +125!)


    Buy Marc Lloyd-Williams from Bangor City if you need a good cheap goalscorer - as we can see from the Third Division scoring charts:

    http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bohemians/cm4/thirdgoals.jpg


    All I can say is that Glen Crowe had an absolutely crap season - just the 71 goals in 53 games!

    http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bohemians/cm4/glen.jpg


    Meanwhile, back in the eircom League - Longford were the transition League Champions and Limerick are currently top - looks like the decline of Cork City has started though :-( :

    http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bohemians/cm4/loifinal.jpg

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    how come glenroe's moral is so low after scoring all those goals and getting another cap?
    life is random

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    Class stuff there. How'd you change the teams in CM4 without the editor though? If I can make a suggestion it'd be to put the displaced English teams in the Conference, put some Conference teams into non-league oblivion and put the likes of DCU, Mullingar Town and any other strong non-league outfits into the eL instead?
    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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    Originally posted by James
    how come glenroe's moral is so low after scoring all those goals and getting another cap?
    Réiteoir is probably a crap manager!
    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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    Originally posted by sadloserkid
    Réiteoir is probably a crap manager!
    This may shock you but it's a bug!

    His success is also a bug of sorts, they failed to sort out the balance between defensive and attacking football. The majority of the CPU teams play fairly defensively whereas Human players tend to go for "Gung Ho" or "Attacking " at the very least. This makes it easier to win. Even if you aren't attacking it's still too easy, I beat Deportivo 7-1 with ten men on "Ultra Defensive".

    My list of honours with U.C.D. inside five seasons is massive (eight trophies, nine runners up medals including a CL final defeat to Man Yoo).
    And stay out of Bumtown, ya no talent bum.

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    Originally posted by UCD_4_Life
    This may shock you but it's a bug!
    A bug??? No!!!


    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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    This can't be true.... I thought CM was the be all and end all when it comes to realsitic football games.... Infact I thought it was so realistic that people judged players on how good they were on CM, and people had applied for real managers jobs based on CM Success.....

    Should I delete that message as I'm sure it will lead to the suicide of some CM saddo's? On second thoughts is that a reason to leave it?

    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Originally posted by sadloserkid
    Class stuff there. How'd you change the teams in CM4 without the editor though? If I can make a suggestion it'd be to put the displaced English teams in the Conference, put some Conference teams into non-league oblivion and put the likes of DCU, Mullingar Town and any other strong non-league outfits into the eL instead?
    I used something called a "SWAP_TEAMS" file:

    Simply put the following into a notepad file - saving it with an ".EDT" file extension in your main data directory under CM4:

    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Sunderland" "Portsmouth"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "West Ham United" "Leicester City"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "West Bromwich Albion" "Reading"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Wigan Athletic" "Sheffield Wednesday"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Crewe Alexandra" "Grimsby Town"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Cambridge City" "Kettering Town"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Cardiff City" "Stoke City"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Wrexham" "Mansfield Town"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Bohemians" "Hartlepool"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Worcester City" "Rochdale"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Hereford United" "Cambridge United"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Tamworth" "Barnet"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Yeovil Town" "Exeter City"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Celtic" "Middlesbrough"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Rangers" "Bolton Wanderers"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Wimbledon" "AFC Wimbledon"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Shamrock Rovers" "Bristol Rovers"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Shelbourne" "Darlington"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "S****horpe United" "Saint Patrick's Athletic"
    "SWAP_TEAMS" "Chesterfield" "Southend United"

    Simply insert the FULL NAME of the clubs you want to swap, save said file, and start a new game - hey presto - the teams are swapped!

    Although I still get entered into the eircom League Cup each season!

    The reason that Crowe's morale was low is that he didn't like me subbing him in a game against Hereford (I was 4-0 up at the time), threw a wobbly at me, I issued him with a warning for Unprofessional Behaviour, and he didn't like that either!

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    Originally posted by Réiteoir

    "SWAP_TEAMS" "S****horpe United" "Saint Patrick's Athletic"
    Censorship at its best!

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    Originally posted by Macy
    . Infact I thought it was so realistic that people judged players on how good they were on CM, and people had applied for real managers jobs based on CM Success.....
    i know what ya mean macy
    10 years managing ccfc on CM got 9 leagues, 5 or 6 cups and a UEFA cup win, plus i got tony tynan and david ward into the full ireland team and still didnt get the city job over Pat Dolan when i included that on my application. *shock*

    bah some ppl have no faith in CM greatness
    life is random

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    Originally posted by James
    bah some ppl have no faith in CM greatness
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Thumbs down

    CM is a dangerous product & should be classified as a recreational drug.

    Haven't played it for a long time (altered limitation on size the cross allowed built to in last game) which is a good thing cos almost impossible to even play that game for as little as 3 hours.
    http://www.forastrust.ie/

    Bring back Rocketman!

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    Originally posted by Réiteoir
    I used something called a "SWAP_TEAMS" file
    I think I'm with you and will probably try it when I get home later on. I'm gonna promote new Irish teams to the eircom League though as opposed to letting the English teams take root here.


    Originally posted by Réiteoir
    Although I still get entered into the eircom League Cup each season!
    I wouldn't consider that a bad thing. kinda like Welsh clubs still playing in the Welsh cup. Will be more problematic in my scenario above because (DCU, Mullingar, St.James Gate and whoever else I promote will probably miss out on league Cup action)
    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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    Originally posted by pete
    CM is a dangerous product & should be classified as a recreational drug.

    Haven't played it for a long time (altered limitation on size the cross allowed built to in last game) which is a good thing cos almost impossible to even play that game for as little as 3 hours.
    Too true.

    Last year I used to go to bed at 3am (on an early night) because I just couldn't drag myself away from my Russian band of misfits that were on the brink of European success. Even when I was dragged away from the PC all I did was talk and think about CM, the amount of times I've told people about my last day screwing by CSKA Moscow...

    I still have a grudge against CSKA and Spartak Moscow to this day. And Rivaldo because his regen decided that he wanted to go to Madrid in 2011.
    And stay out of Bumtown, ya no talent bum.

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    Originally posted by Macy
    This can't be true.... I thought CM was the be all and end all when it comes to realsitic football games.... Infact I thought it was so realistic that people judged players on how good they were on CM, and people had applied for real managers jobs based on CM Success.....

    Should I delete that message as I'm sure it will lead to the suicide of some CM saddo's? On second thoughts is that a reason to leave it?

    You fool! How dare you question CM?

    Just you wait until Diego, Robinho and Freddy Adu rule the footballing World. Then you'll be sorry.

    CM has predicted the likes of Riquelme, Ricardo Quaresma and Saviola and by gum it put them on the map.
    And stay out of Bumtown, ya no talent bum.

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    Originally posted by Réiteoir
    I used something called a "SWAP_TEAMS" file:
    Do you know if it is possible to create new competitions e.g. a Celtic Cup or something?

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    Originally posted by Shelsman
    Do you know if it is possible to create new competitions e.g. a Celtic Cup or something?
    I don't think you can. Open to correction but I couldn't see any way of regulating participants etc...
    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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