FAI move to stamp out dodgy betting patterns

**dcfc_1928** · 19/11/2007, 2:05 PM

Do they use a PDA for this?

There's a guy in the press box at the Brandywell, who is always tapping on a PDA during the game. Had a nosey at the screen and its some custom application running on it and when either team attack or have a corner etc, he taps the relevant button.

Always wondered what it was for, and yes I am a nosey fecker lol

Originally Posted by Battery Rover

It is for betting in running. I know a guy that does it for a web site from the Athlone Town press box every match

**harpskid** · 19/11/2007, 2:09 PM

Originally Posted by dcfc_1928

Do they use a PDA for this?

There's a guy in the press box at the Brandywell, who is always tapping on a PDA during the game. Had a nosey at the screen and its some custom application running on it and when either team attack or have a corner etc, he taps the relevant button.

Always wondered what it was for, and yes I am a nosey fecker lol

Yeah they do. I know the guy that does it from Finn Park and he was saying it's for some German site

**Dodge** · 19/11/2007, 2:10 PM

Threads merged.

**Dodge** · 19/11/2007, 2:11 PM

Originally Posted by harpskid

Yeah they do. I know the guy that does it from Finn Park and he was saying it's for some German site

Its an info site. No bookmakers offers in running betting for first division games (or non TV premier games for that matter)

**Battery Rover** · 19/11/2007, 2:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jaime

Fair enough, you find us an online bookmaker who bets on First Division games in-running.

By in running I meant betting before match and at half time not minute by minute

if I can see himat the Under 21 international tomorrow I will ask him the full detail of it

**KR's Post** · 19/11/2007, 3:49 PM

I know of a certain Eircom League player and manager who had quite alot on Bray to win. Won't mention names as i've no proof but the manager in question had a whooping 10000euro on it.

**osarusan** · 19/11/2007, 4:02 PM

Originally Posted by KR's Post

I know of a certain Eircom League player and manager who had quite alot on Bray to win. Won't mention names as i've no proof but the manager in question had a whooping 10000euro on it.

Player and manager? Player-manager? Or 2 different people?

10,000 euros........are you sure?

**centre mid** · 19/11/2007, 4:09 PM

Originally Posted by KR's Post

I know of a certain Eircom League player and manager who had quite alot on Bray to win. Won't mention names as i've no proof but the manager in question had a whooping 10000euro on it.

If you have no proof then its idle speculation

no bookmaker would have laid 10000 on an Eircom game that one side desperately need a result in and the other side it was meaningless match.

**KR's Post** · 19/11/2007, 4:16 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

Player and manager? Player-manager? Or 2 different people?

10,000 euros........are you sure?

Manager had 10 grand and player had 3 grand. Very good source!

**Mr A** · 19/11/2007, 4:22 PM

There have been whispers that players from a few clubs have been placing bets that they really shouldn't have. Very hard to prove though.

**el punter** · 19/11/2007, 4:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Its an info site. No bookmakers offers in running betting for first division games (or non TV premier games for that matter)

Oddly enough, the bookmakers in Asia DO bet in running on First Division games, friendlies, U21 matches and anything else they can get someone with a phone to. The guy with the phone just tells the Asian bookie when there has been a goal or there is a chance of a goal, then the in-running betting is suspended until the danger is clear.

I couldn't believe myself till I saw the odds with my own eyes.

There was a guy on the forum here last year asking people to volunteer to relay the match "commentaries" to the bookies. He paid �50 a game.

You can't just open an account out of nowhere with these bookies though, you have to be referred to them by an existing account holder and then its all on a credit basis.

**OneRedArmy** · 19/11/2007, 5:16 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

There have been whispers that players from a few clubs have been placing bets that they really shouldn't have. Very hard to prove though.

Not if the bookies have a two-way flow of information with the FAI (see start of thread) it isn't!

Any sport where sums to be made from gambling are signficantly higher than the players wages (as is the case for most EL players) are ripe for abuse.

Although it is good to hear Powers getting hit!

A few seasons ago Ladbrokes got hammered for six figures on a handicap League title bet (handicapped Derry to finish 7th in SK's first full season) and I believe don't cover the EL anymore or at least don't offer that bet.

**Dodge** · 19/11/2007, 5:20 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

A few seasons ago Ladbrokes got hammered for six figures on a handicap League title bet (handicapped Derry to finish 7th in SK's first full season) and I believe don't cover the EL anymore or at least don't offer that bet.

They did last year. And cover the league every week.

And all it takes is for the players' wife/brother to place the bet.

**Ceirtlis** · 19/11/2007, 9:48 PM

Paddy Power and the rest were happy to lay Bray at the odds available, they were far from a giveaway. They started at 4/5 and were down to 2/7 in some places not what i would call punting material anyways. The hit taken on Rovers drogs was much more unexpected though i think that started somewhere around the 5/2-3/1 mark. Its a non story anyways from the mirror who seem to be in a league of their own for this ****e.

There was a case in the northern ireland league a few seasons ago though where some team got hammered 4-0 cant remember who was playing but the ifa signed one of them agreements with betfair soon after and ni prem league mathces have only recently become available again on that website.

**Poor Student** · 19/11/2007, 10:26 PM

I just don't see the issue. Why do the bookies have to be bullet proof and any time they actually take a relatively small hit is it some sort of issue? It seems to be taken as given that there's some sort of problem if they get caught in a situation where they can't deter everyone from betting on the right outcome.

**OneRedArmy** · 19/11/2007, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

I just don't see the issue. Why do the bookies have to be bullet proof and any time they actually take a relatively small hit is it some sort of issue? It seems to be taken as given that there's some sort of problem if they get caught in a situation where they can't deter everyone from betting on the right outcome.

As long as those gambling (and winning) aren't players or closely associated with either team I think most people would agree with that sentiment.

**Raheny Red** · 20/11/2007, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by bholg

now that i check, i had an accumulator and foolishly thought shels would beat wexford at home (that result a bit stinky now that i think of it)

It was indeed, and I caught Wexford

. Plenty of first division players backing against themselves towards the end of the season in meaningless games!

**Dodge** · 20/11/2007, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

It was indeed, and I caught Wexford

. Plenty of first division players backing against themselves towards the end of the season in meaningless games!

Just for the record Wexford were 9/2 with boyles to win that game

**bholg** · 20/11/2007, 12:40 PM

Hmm. It appears i was a little naive regarding the shels/wexford game.

looking forward to the end of next season already- bargain betting.

What about tomorrow night for the euro's - countries to field weak teams/not bother their arses because tables are already decided?

Wales for a miraculous win in Germany anyone? 10/1 on boyles. (5/1 - Draw)
Cyprus at home to czech 7/2 ??

**cheifo** · 20/11/2007, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

There have been whispers that players from a few clubs have been placing bets that they really shouldn't have. Very hard to prove though.

Yeh lets be honest its not even whispers anymore.A lot of people naming players/teams backing themselves to lose in particular matches.Mischevious gossip?I hope so, its difficult to imagine a whole team agreeing to not try in a game without it leaking out.In any situation shirley there would be at least one player who would object.In a few years a film will be made about this one man who refuses to dirty his bib starring Russell Crowe.