Protest Merrion Sq.

**R�iteoir** · 30/10/2007, 9:03 AM

The only sticks I can find to beat him with are the Club Licensing stuff, the nonsensical fines handed down to the clubs, and the FAI Cup Final debacle

**pete** · 30/10/2007, 11:50 AM

In relation to the FAI League i think it has been better than what we had before, The FAI are a bit heavy handed with fines & silencing criticism. Fines are late team sheets & such are the only way to prevent in future & less public criticism is welcomed but an improved official channel would be good too.

**Tis-smeee** · 30/10/2007, 4:34 PM

This is the silliest thing I have ever heard..at Waterford United, We have a new three million euro stand, a new FAI Development Officer, a new Club Promotions Officer and progress since the merger, which John Delaney was I would say responsible for.

We are currently working on new strategy for the club and receiving alot of assistance from many departments within the FAI.

What is the protest for? because the manager didn't work out?

**cestlavie** · 30/10/2007, 4:42 PM

Sure local volunteers play a big role but funding, support and facilitation is what the FAI are there to provide and they do that pretty well. Interestingly enough, Delaney has little day to day involvement in that side of things , it mainly comes under the remiit of Donegal's favourite son, Packie Bonner, in his role as Technical Director. Dont think Packie would consider his role as one of the 'jobs for the boys'.[/QUOTE]

I am from Donegal and I have no problem saying that Packie should not be in that job. This was a "job for one of the boys"

**barney** · 30/10/2007, 4:46 PM

Originally Posted by Tis-smeee

This is the silliest thing I have ever heard..at Waterford United, We have a new three million euro stand, a new FAI Development Officer, a new Club Promotions Officer and progress since the merger, which John Delaney was I would say responsible for.

We are currently working on new strategy for the club and receiving alot of assistance from many departments within the FAI.

What is the protest for? because the manager didn't work out?

People don't want to see that. This is Ireland, and in Ireland if something goes wrong then we demand a head to roll for it. No such thing as a chance to learn from your mistake. It's pure immaturity.

Delaney f**ked up with Stan. He belatedly admitted how much he f**ked up. He says he will have nothing to do with the selection of a new manager. That's learning your lesson. Give the bloke a decent chance at running the game.

**micls** · 30/10/2007, 4:53 PM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

The only sticks I can find to beat him with are the Club Licensing stuff, the nonsensical fines handed down to the clubs, and the FAI Cup Final debacle

The banning of Delaney out flags from EL games....

**dcfcsteve** · 30/10/2007, 5:05 PM

Originally Posted by gspain

Given that he has finally got rid of our world class manager and won't have a say in his replacement surely this is the worst time to get rid of him.

What do we pay the top brass in the FAI to do - if they shirk core responsibilities like selecting a manager, and instead spend further funds (i.e. beyond their salaries) on getting someone else to do it...?

Are they there to run Irish football, or to sub-contract the running of it ?

It is clear that Delaney et all are passing-on responsibility for selecting the manager because they want to avoid any future fall-out. They have not made that decision out of any admission of their own limitations.

**Bald Student** · 30/10/2007, 5:08 PM

Originally Posted by micls

The banning of Delaney out flags from EL games....

... and the Fanzine ban but they're both small things.

**Jerry The Saint** · 30/10/2007, 5:09 PM

Originally Posted by barney

People don't want to see that. This is Ireland, and in Ireland if something goes wrong then we demand a head to roll for it. No such thing as a chance to learn from your mistake. It's pure immaturity.

Delaney f**ked up with Stan. He belatedly admitted how much he f**ked up. He says he will have nothing to do with the selection of a new manager. That's learning your lesson. Give the bloke a decent chance at running the game.

Hi John, nice to have you back.

**barney** · 30/10/2007, 5:15 PM

Missed you too Jerry but this hair doesn't look this good on its own. It takes time you know.

**soccerc** · 30/10/2007, 5:28 PM

Originally Posted by micls

The banning of Delaney out flags from EL games....

As has been pointed out to me today.

All flags and banners and anyone in possession of one will be refused entry or ejected from grounds.

Not sure how true it is, but understand it's part of the ground regulations in the participation agreement and clubs have been told to fully implement it.

**pineapple stu** · 30/10/2007, 5:42 PM

It's quite true, and recently being reminded to clubs again after recent appearances. I had one of our officials asking me if we had any on Sunday.

**soccerc** · 30/10/2007, 5:47 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

It's quite true, and recently being reminded to clubs again after recent appearances. I had one of our officials asking me if we had any on Sunday.

I should have made it clearer, that's all flags or banners not just Delaney out one's. Person who told me today is concerned as he may be one of the people who will either refuse entry or eject long standing supporters and it's not something he is in agreement with. Fees it will make grounds even more sterile.

**pineapple stu** · 30/10/2007, 5:48 PM

Oh, OK. Hadn't heard that. All other banners were OK with us on Sunday. Wouldn't surprise me though...

Are we counting a "UCD" banner, or is it just things with messages Delaney doesn't want voiced?

**bray boy** · 30/10/2007, 5:52 PM

1: Nobody thinks it will quite litreally "Get Delaney Out"- it's just to show some degree of anger towards the current situation.

2: The problems with Delaney and the FAI in general at present are surely well known to EL fans in particular, and there cant be a need to expand on them. Licencing, cup finals blah blah blah.

3: Theres a huge amount of online moaning these days about the issue, so some people just want to take it beyond that. It might only be a few heads standing around making a point...but it is more constructive than bitchin on the internet

4: Feck it, you really could keep going...we just want to let the FAI know how we feel, in a real way

**Jerry The Saint** · 30/10/2007, 5:53 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Are we counting a "UCD" banner, or is it just things with messages Delaney doesn't want voiced?

Just realised that U C(***) D(******) could be interpreted as a very appropriate message that Delaney definitely wouldn't want voiced.

Sorry, they'll all have to be destroyed - those banners are the biggest threat to society since the game where fans threw paper on the pitch (No-one likes a litterbug

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**Jerry The Saint** · 30/10/2007, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by the seagull

1: Nobody thinks it will quite litreally "Get Delaney Out"- it's just to show some degree of anger towards the current situation.

This is an important point and is also why the booing at Croker was important. Delaney has lied in public that the FAI (and Staunton in particular) have the full backing of Irish supporters. After the Cyprus game it was clear that his lies (staying behind in Prague to sing Staunton's name) regarding the Ireland manager were unsustainable and Staunton got the chop.

Similarly, even the slightest criticism of the FAI from within the league is punishable with heavy fines (huge in relation to the average turnover of clubs) - the Derry website comments, Scully interview, confiscation of banners/flags, banning of fanzines, even going back to the Red Card protest when fans were searched entering Lansdowne and had bits of paper taken from them.

So to the outsider, it looks like everyone is happy. Indeed, most of the recent media criticism of Delaney has been along the lines of "messed up the international team but doing a great job otherwise".

**Marco** · 30/10/2007, 6:41 PM

Originally Posted by Tis-smeee

This is the silliest thing I have ever heard..at Waterford United, We have a new three million euro stand, a new FAI Development Officer, a new Club Promotions Officer and progress since the merger, which John Delaney was I would say responsible for.

We are currently working on new strategy for the club and receiving alot of assistance from many departments within the FAI.

What is the protest for? because the manager didn't work out?

Well said, and speaking for myself, what point will the protest make, even on some of the Sunday papers the journos made the point that enough was enough on the ragging of John Delaney and the FAI, nobodies perfect but look at the effort they have put in at St.Colmans Park with a new stand, dressing rooms, offices etc. Attendances are up and work within the community has never been better, the work done by FAI on anti racism & intergration is setting the standards for other organisations and groups.

Nobody said it would be plain sailing or everything would be sorted in the first year. The promoting of Eircom League and it's clubs has never been better, and their is more to come.

I think that the Eircom League is far better league with them than not having them, and if things are so hush hush within the organisation why is Noel Mooney willing to answer the questions that you the fans have put to him. I have said it many a time, there is no pleasing some people.

**Cosmo** · 30/10/2007, 7:09 PM

Originally Posted by soccerc

Person who told me today is concerned as he may be one of the people who will either refuse entry or eject long standing supporters and it's not something he is in agreement with. Fees it will make grounds even more sterile.

In fairness soccerc, the clubs have only themeselevs to blame!! They all got caught up into the hype, too worried they'd be shafted with new licensing,etc that they all agreed to the FAI league and the silly ruels that went along with it and let the FAI decide wtf they want to do as they go along

!!

same with the stupid fines,etc

I think clubs are only starting to realise now wtf they did - when they should have had the cop on before voting for it

(and im including my own club in that

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