Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy
In fairness he was only trying to point out some plus points and didn't say that was the main reason he wouldn't mind Souness being appointed.
On that point I think Duff arguably played his best football under Claudio Ranieri at Chelsea, scoring and setting up goals in the Champions League for one of the top 4 teams in the Premiership.
Where was that said? It was merely put forth as a point to be tabulated in the Graeme Souness balance sheet. Relax dude! Perhaps the reason people crack you up is because you sometimes take wild interpretations out of innocuous comments. Now that's the kinda **** that cracks me up.
I'd be very worried about this appointment.
Smacks of desperation. Can't see anything that Souness would bring to the set-up. of course, I can't see a decent coach actually agreeing to manage Ireland.
There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.
Once again a lovely extrapolation of my comment where I said that, as a person, from a lowly depth, Souness has risen in my estimations after getting to see him in a different environment. From seeing him on TV I've changed my opinion of him from him being an obnoxious ***** to being a decent enough sort. If you want to infer that to mean I think he is the saviour then I don't like you. Anyway leaving that aside, why do you think he'd be a disaster?
which is exactly why I suggested it because
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but surely he is contracted at reading ? FAI will need to get someone appointed before they try to punt all these friendly tickets at croker , thats for sure.
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Isn't that exactly what Stan was appointed for and tried to do?
We need someone who will give them a kick up the arse and get them working.
Yes, but unfortunately Coppell is unavailable for the job.
But he has an incredibly boring voice...
One of Souness' jobs at Newcastle was to win over a dressing room of 'rolls royce' players, as Freddie Shepherd put it. What happened? He didn't win them over, he didnt change the bling culture that was at Newcastle. Dyer and Bowyer tried to knock lumps out of each other. He couldn't control Bellamy. He couldn't stop Jenas' demise as a Newcastle player. So going on that, he failed one of the major tasks he was given, a tast similar to what some people say he will have to do here. And I haven't even touched on the sh!te football his teams play...
As a pundit I actually like what he has to say. But a good, knowledgable pundit does not make a good manager, and here I think we have the perfect example.
Last edited by onephillyhughes; 05/11/2007 at 12:53 PM.
Thursdays are Oriel
102 caps - legend
Agree with all that, and he also fell out with every club he was at.
Souness should not be let near the Irish team. He should be judged on his managerial record alone but I think that some people see him doing well as a pundit and ignore that from the 8 or so clubs he has managed that he did pretty badly at five of those clubs. I wonder how many of the people talking him up for the job would have done so before he became a pundit on RTE. I would say very few. I like him as pundit myself but I do not want him as our next manager. There seems to be money available so why not aim a little higher? As John Giles said, put a couple of million on the table and you'll be amazed who will want the job.
couldnt agree more paulie , let it be known that there is serious wedge for the holder of the position and it becomes far more prestigious. I mean how many countries have 50,000 people coming to see them play cyprus ??
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
It's looking like you needn't worry too much about whether Souness would make a good ROI manager or not.
With Hutchings having been sacked by Wigan this morning, "Skybet" latest odds have Souness as 2/1 ON (favourite) to take over. The next shortest odds are 8/1 AGAINST for Hoddle, Jewell and Pearce.
We were only wondering if he would be a good Manager for Ireland.
Souness rejected the Bolton job when it was offered to him. Isn't Wigan much of a muchness?
Maybe he's making a cunning ploy by using these rumours linking him with "top" clubs in order to get top dollar from the FAI....
He's a clever guy that Souness fellah!
"Well I think they'll be a little disappointed with that" - Matt Holland on TV3 after 5-2 drubbing by Cyprus
EG dont go tellin' me you actually trust the bookies evaluations of who will be the next manager of a team. quickest way to the poorhouse....
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
I slept, and dreamed that life was Beauty;
I woke, and found that life was Duty.
It's not a case of "trusting" bookies, rather it's a case of following the money and with those odds, Skybet clearly didn't want to take money on Souness, but were hoping to take a few bob on the others.
Unfortunately for them, they were unsuccessful, since they didn't receive a single enquiry about anyone other than Souness. Consequently, they have now closed the book entirely!
My guess is that Souness is in talks with Wigan right now and if they can agree terms, it'll happen.
Hope your right. It will get him out of the Ireland running and significantly reduce Wigan's survival chances which could help save one of the other struggling teams that have a decent Irish contingent (Birmingham, Reading or Sunderland). A season in the Championship might see Kevin Kilbane frozen out of the Irish setup which would be another bonus.
Last edited by youngirish; 05/11/2007 at 3:36 PM.
One word for Souness with regards to the Irish job....unemployable.
Look at it from an FAI perspective...do they need to take another risk? Give them some credit, if they do interview Souness it will be purely a case of going through the motions. He has as much a chance of getting a job as a presenter on Strictly Come Dancing.
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