How come Dulin Clubs can't get the crowds?

**A face** · 18/05/2003, 3:00 AM

Originally posted by Soko
Would'nt Limerick not be a bad side to get promoted?

I would love to see it and it would be great for Limerick if they did. The club needs something like re-election to get it back on track to make a serious contribution and as one of the major town in Ireland should be able to do it.

**Blue Muff** · 19/05/2003, 1:22 PM

Originally posted by Soko
Would'nt Limerick not be a bad side to get promoted? All posts talk about City being the only team around and getting all the support and that could be the same in Limerick. Forget the rugby because its its well over now and GAA interests wont last too long either. Waterford are starting to get crowds, so could Limerick. Could also give Rovers a rival for top scumbag fans. (I know thats not a good thing but they are secretly proud of it)

What do you mean Waterford are starting to get a crowd. Waterford has always been a soccer city and our average crowd in 1st division over the last 10 years has been around 1500. CC would never get a crowd like that in the first.
Although it would be great to see Cork beat Shels on Friday and see two Munster teams no 1 and 2 in the Premier League (Waterford on top obviously)

**Soko** · 19/05/2003, 4:23 PM

Originally posted by Blue Muff
What do you mean Waterford are starting to get a crowd. Waterford has always been a soccer city and our average crowd in 1st division over the last 10 years has been around 1500. CC would never get a crowd like that in the first.
Although it would be great to see Cork beat Shels on Friday and see two Munster teams no 1 and 2 in the Premier League (Waterford on top obviously)

Yes, but your in the premier now and you are averaging 3,500 I think. That is obviously an improvement and therefore you are starting to get bigger crowds. I have also been to Waterford games where there were more like 150. City dont have a monopoly on big crowds and I'd love to see you start to average 5,000 plus like down the 'Cross.

As you say, soccer is no 1 and it should happen. I reckon over well over 6,000 we we come down in July or whatever the capacity of the RSC is.

**Blue Muff** · 20/05/2003, 8:37 AM

Originally posted by Soko

As you say, soccer is no 1 and it should happen. I reckon over well over 6,000 we we come down in July or whatever the capacity of the RSC is.

Looking forward to it already - it will defo be a sell out with yee boys brininging down around 1500 ?

It would be even better with if two two Munster teams were no. 1 and 2

**dortie** · 20/05/2003, 2:47 PM

Im glad to see Waterford back up and holding their own...some EL fans seem to forget about certain clubs history, Waterford are similar to the rest of us, once success is on the horizon more fans will come flooding through.....if we (Derry City) get back to were we belong in the top 3 of this league then our attendances will reach 7,000-9,000 as they were in 97 when we last won the premier league. Alot of EL clubs have fickle fans, another club who i want to see return to the premier league is Galway Utd, again they have potential for large attendances.

I hate to say this Stu but UCD are not worthy of premier league status in my eyes, there is no real potential for large attendances.

**Blue Muff** · 20/05/2003, 2:55 PM

Originally posted by dortie
Im glad to see Waterford back up and holding their own...some EL fans seem to forget about certain clubs history,

Cheers,

I still remember when Derry joined the league (not to sure of the year late 80,s ??), it was one of the biggest crowds seen in Kilcohan Park for years, all becuase Derry brought down 6,000 supporters for the w/e. It was incredible and **** me its a long way from Derry to Waterford. A great day was had by both sets of supporters.

**tiktok** · 20/05/2003, 6:30 PM

I think a lot of the points made on the advantages that 'regional" clubs have with the community factor are valid. Derry, City and Waterford are obvious examples. But to imply that only locals will support a club (and blame low attendances for dublin clubs on this fact) is way off.

i know a lot of non cork lads who went through college in UCC and the CIT and started going to city games, and stuck with the club. those still in cork head to all the home games, those moved on get to the odd home and away games.

the sense of community can be built by the club, it doesn't all have to be based on geography, Pat's were particularly good at recruiting "blow-ins" because Pat dolan created a great atmosphere about the club.

we can knock the fact that bohs give away tickets, but would you rather have empty seats or kids in there for free who might build a love for the club. that and the new stadium rovers will have are both efforts clubs can make to create this much wanted community feeling.

**TommyT** · 20/05/2003, 6:34 PM

Anyone remember Waterford taking over the RDS in the mid-nineties ?

Sligo used to do it aswell while in the early nineties Cork used to have a 3 figure travelling support on Sunday afternoons in Dublin.

**Gary** · 20/05/2003, 8:08 PM

Cork used to have a 3 figure travelling support on Sunday afternoons in Dublin.

To be fair Tommy, we probably still do. There were a good 350 of us in Richmond a few weeks back.

**Soko** · 20/05/2003, 8:31 PM

Originally posted by GWA
To be fair Tommy, we probably still do. There were a good 350 of us in Richmond a few weeks back.

Just not vocal enough. I think Dubs only count the ones standing up as well.

**Blue Muff** · 21/05/2003, 7:54 AM

Originally posted by TommyT
Anyone remember Waterford taking over the RDS in the mid-nineties ?

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It was 1991 in the cup second round. De Blues were in the first division nut we were running away with it and had a pretty handy team. It was estimated that 3,500 travelled to the RDS. We outnumbered Rovers on their "own" (well not exactly their) by 2 - 1. The atmosphere was great.

The only problem was that Rovers hammered us 4 nil. It was still a day to remember though.

**Dricky** · 21/05/2003, 9:32 AM

Originally posted by Soko
Just not vocal enough. I think Dubs only count the ones standing up as well.

What Dubs being able to count!!!!!!! [COLOR=red][SIZE=3]SHOCK[/SIZE] [/COLOR]

Next you be telling us they can read.

I think it a shame that in Dublin the away fans don't come out to support their team, the amount of, for example, Cork fans living in Dublin that will jump on the band wagon for a FAI Final but won't bother with the el is mad. If 500 fans got off their arse and went to a match in Dublin it would add to the game in so many ways. We have to break this grip the Prem has on the fans in Ireland, with the failing of ITV Dig we can now surpass the quality of the lower divisions in england but it will be years not months in the way of time.
That gives the clubs ample time to get their club followed.
There are thousands of Man UTD or Liverpool, Spurs or Leeds fans who are from the country who will stay in Dubln at weekends. What are they doing??? They say they love football and they watch it all the time why haven't the club done anything to get them interested in the games at home these people are not that hard to trace, (they hardly sound like the Dubs) , Home teams are not the only ones resposible for getting the crowds anymore, The fans have to be won over and boy will the jump when the see the CL Bandwagon come along, first Irish team there will have the Blackburn affect. (Well who knew any fans before they won the EP)

There rant over.. Any match I went to see away or will go to see you can be sure the same lads(and one or two ladies) are at the match

**pineapple stu** · 21/05/2003, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by dortie
I hate to say this Stu but UCD are not worthy of premier league status in my eyes, there is no real potential for large attendances.

What - any club who gets lower than a certain average attendance is automatically "not worthy" of a Premier place? Don't be ridiculous!

And what do you mean, we have no potential for large attendances? We have Stillorgan, D�n Laoghaire, Kilmacud, Dundrum, Clonskeagh, Foxrock, Blackrock, Mount Merrion, Donnybrook, Deansgrange, Cabinteely, Glenageary - there's 250,000 people for you straight off! There's about 10 buses go to UCD from all over the south of Dublin, so no problem there. The club have over the last season and a bit started tapping into the local areas, and you can already see the increase in home fans. Of course there's "potential" for large crowds!

**Macy** · 21/05/2003, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by pineapple stu
and you can already see the increase in home fans

What, enough to support the team financially, rather than relying on a government subsidy that no other club gets and helps you maintain your false position in the league???

**pineapple stu** · 21/05/2003, 4:34 PM

Oh, God, here we go again...

**TommyT** · 21/05/2003, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by GWA
To be fair Tommy, we probably still do. There were a good 350 of us in Richmond a few weeks back.

D'oh I meant 4 figure. Your right about Richmond.

Originally posted by Blue Muff
It was 1991 in the cup second round. De Blues were in the first division nut we were running away with it and had a pretty handy team

Surely it was 1993, and you were anchored to the bottom of the Premier ???