QuoteGood to see my two tips still there...Inter and AC
As for celtic, give me a break. They are a very poor team, and were pish poor under O Neill too.
Fair enough, I thought I remembered a poster using the handle "eirebhoy" on it from back in the day.Originally Posted by eirebhoy
If Juventus's Brazilian striker hadn't been tackled by the force of gravity in Celtic's first away game to win a penalty and deny them a point, I think they would have qualified from that group. Having said that, if my auntie had balls....
Good to see my two tips still there...Inter and AC
As for celtic, give me a break. They are a very poor team, and were pish poor under O Neill too.
I was looking on youtube for the incident when I was posting about it yesterday and the only thing I can find is a video taken on camcorder which doesn't even show the collision. The first clip in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPELPoBBVFs
Celtic fans talk about unfair decisions against Man Utd, Juve, Lyon, etc. but that one never gets a mention.
As for the quality of the current team. Of the whole squad the only players I'd be happy to have in the first team next season are Boruc, McManus/O'Dea, Brown, Naka, McGeady and McDonald. So only 1 defender is good enough imo. Only 1 striker is good enough. The midfield I'm happy with, just needs the one player. I don't know what happened to Vennegoor. He was excellent at the start of his Celtic career and has just gotten worse. Donati has a lot to do and is finding it hard to adjust to the SPL where you get no time on the ball. Jarosik and Hartley are good squad players. The rest can be sold for all I care. Although Wilson has been unlucky with injury. Classed as the best defender in Scotland by Strachan after his first half season with Celtic.
Last edited by eirebhoy; 15/12/2007 at 12:02 PM.
Amoruso or Amoroso, wasn't it? Terrible decision, blatant dive. Joos Valgaeren was the defender. He was astonished. Not unlike the Defoe penalty against Croatia recently,but without the minor tug.
Looking forward to the draw. Man U vs Celtic ??
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Apparently there's statistically more chance of Celtic drawing one of the 2 English teams than 1 of the 3 Spanish teams. All to do with the domino effect where you can't play teams from your own country or group. I don't know how it was calculated though.
why not do both ?
Was he crazy!! Yeah , in a very special way , an Irishman.
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I woke, and found that life was Duty.
Because zero points away as about what you'd expect a team of Celtic's standard, 9 points at home is more!
Celtic's chances of drawing each team worked out to be:
Man Utd 19.7%
Chelsea 18.8%
Inter Milan 13.4%
Porto 12.5%
Sevilla 12.5%
Real Madrid 11.5%
Barcelona 11.5%
AC Milan 0%
So that adds up to: English team: 38.5%, Spanish team: 35.5%, Neither: 26%
Coral odds for the draw for Celtic are;
Man Utd 7/2
Chelsea 4/1
Inter 5/1
Porto 6/1
Sevilla 6/1
Real Madrid 13/2
Barcelona 13/2
So the value bet there is Chelsea. Coral reckon there's a 17.5% chance of Celtic drawing Chelsea when it's actually 18.8%. As small a percentage as it sounds, if you could work out the odds for every bet like that you'd be a rich man. It's impossible to work out the actual odds of a horse or football team winning though.
I think you are right in what you say, but that gives us all the more right to have a moan about the consistently poor away form. Celtic supporters are not daft enough to think that this home form can go on for ever and when it does falter we will absolutely need to take something from an away game or two. Hence why we need to overcome this mental barrier starting in the last 16 game!!!
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
All I want for Christmas is Real Madrid in the next round.
Celtic vs Barcelona
Lyon vs Man Utd
Schalke vs Porto
Liverpool vs Inter Milan
Roma vs Real Madrid
Arsenal vs AC Milan
Olympiakos vs Chelsea
Fenerbache vs Seville
Arsenal vs Milan will be a cracker. Some very interesting ties there too.
I'd predict all group winners to come through , the only doubt being the Milan Arsenal one and the Schalke Porto one
Celtic vs Barcelona (w)
Lyon (w) vs Man Utd
Schalke vs Porto (w)
Liverpool vs Inter Milan (w)
Roma vs Real Madrid (w)
Arsenal (w) vs AC Milan
Olympiakos vs Chelsea (w)
Fenerbache vs Seville (w)
Is the way I see those ties going
I certainly don't fancy Arsenal against Milan.
I think Arsenal will hop them personally. I'm gonna even put a cheeky tenner on them scoring 6 goals over the two legs
Really? Milan are the masters of stopping teams play. While it may be hard to stop the likes of Messi, Arsenal are a team of playmakers which can easily be marked. Take the space away from Arsenal and they're screwed because they rely almost completely on a passing game. As would Milan if they didn't have Kaka. You can't pass Milan off the park because usually the only players available to pass to are behind you.
Milan haven't been able to stop the likes of mighty Empoli, Catania and Torino from taking points off them at home this year, last time I looked they hadn't even won one game at the San Siro yet this year, haven't checked in a couple of weeks but I don't think thats changed. There defence have finally come of old age and the pace of Arsenal will shatter them. Add to that that Arsenal have progressed from a one man attack system, whilst Milan are stuck in their Kaka dominated world and I think I'm safe in saying Arsenal will beat them
Lyon won't beat Man United in my opinion, other than that I largely agree. Could also see Schalke beating Porto.
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