Champions League thread

[shakermaker1982]

The Second medal Grant was given was for Drogba.
I have to laugh at the United posters on here actually having the Gaul to suggest that they deserved to win it. They played well for 1/2 an hour in the first half and where completely overrun in the 2nd, ffs they only won it because John Terry lost his footing at the most inopportune moment imaginable, Van Der Sar was beaten by the penalty so if he hadn't slipped it was game and championship to Chelsea. But I suppose Utd fans are used to fluking their way to wins in big games by now

I'd recommend you watch your 2005 win against Milan again

[Block G Raptor]

I'd recommend you watch your 2005 win against Milan again

Totally agree that we robbed Milan blind that night, as they did us Last year. I think most Liverpool fans would admit that but will Man U fans admit that the better team lost last night .....not in a million years they won't thats why no one likes Man U fans

Ferguson could do with watching last nights match again, did anyone here see him on ITV. "We were magnificent in the first half. the 2nd half was more even but I think we just about shaded it too, so over all we deserved to win"
if he really believes that Utd shaded the 2nd half then the man is delusional

[shakermaker1982]

Totally agree that we robbed Milan blind that night, as they did us Last year. I think most Liverpool fans would admit that but will Man U fans admit that the better team lost last night .....not in a million years they won't thats why no one likes Man U fans

Ferguson could do with watching last nights match again, did anyone here him on ITV. "We were magnificent in the first half. the 2nd half was more even but I think we just about shaded it too, so over all we deserved to win"
if he really believes that Utd shaded the 2nd half then the man is delusional

I thought we were excellent in the first half but Chelsea got back into it in the 2nd half after making sure Carrick and Scholes were pressed much quicker. Extra Time? Fairly even. They hit the woodwork twice but Man Utd had a lot of good chances to have wrapped the game up.

Vidic was MOM -Drogba was in his pocket all night. Terry and Lampard are getting MOM in the papers I've read so far today and they must have been watching a different game to me.

[Macy]

Big United should've had it sown up by half time, and Chelsea can hardly bemoan bad luck too much considering the two deflections and van der Sar slipping for their goal. That arguably changed the game from one of United dominance to giving Chelsea the momentum.

Anelka didn't even look bothered he'd missed, which is typical of the guy. Great to see Kenyon get the reaction he deserved when he went up to collect his losers shield. wtf UEFA are doing giving it out anyway, but typical of his ego that they couldn't have got an ex-player to go up for it.

FC promoted to the Northern Premier. Big United European Champions and Champions. Not a bad season of English football.

[geysir]

Found it all a bit too gay, like the Eurovision.
Bring back Leeds and the 70´s.

Anelka deserves special mention for escaping the rap.

[old git]

Well said, I'm a United fan but I felt gutted for Terry(who is one of the few Chelsea players I like) if anyone should of missed it should of my that lovable character Ashley Cole, although Anelka would of been 2nd on the list

would have been a perfect finish if cole missed last penalty

[old git]

I thought that when I saw him stepping up too. As soon as I saw it was him taking the fifth penalty, I knew he's miss. I thought he'd work himself up way too much and blast it. I know it's easy to slag off Grant, but it was really foolish of him to choose Terry to take the final one. I don't have any idea why he decided to do that. Perhaps he let his heart rule his head.

I think had Drogba still been on the pitch it may well have been a totally different outcome as he may have scored his penalty. However, he can only have himself to blame for what happened.

not the managers decision on penalty takers he should have organised order a bit better . if players dont have the b*lls to step up what can manager do at least terry was man enough to step up .. but ballack should have been left as last penalty taker

[old git]

The Second medal Grant was given was for Drogba.
I have to laugh at the United posters on here actually having the Gaul to suggest that they deserved to win it. They played well for 1/2 an hour in the first half and where completely overrun in the 2nd, ffs they only won it because John Terry lost his footing at the most inopportune moment imaginable, Van Der Sar was beaten by the penalty so if he hadn't slipped it was game and championship to Chelsea. But I suppose Utd fans are used to fluking their way to wins in big games by now

did u miss the 2 great chances to go 3 nil up before chelsea scored with first lucky shot on goal in 44th min utd totally owned fist half.
were overrunn for long periods in second half .. buts thats football
if's & buts if terry had not slipped if he did not hit post he did unfortunatly thats the joys of football

[WoodquayBoy]

Totally agree that we robbed Milan blind that night, as they did us Last year. I think most Liverpool fans would admit that but will Man U fans admit that the better team lost last night .....not in a million years they won't thats why no one likes Man U fans

Ferguson could do with watching last nights match again, did anyone here see him on ITV. "We were magnificent in the first half. the 2nd half was more even but I think we just about shaded it too, so over all we deserved to win"
if he really believes that Utd shaded the 2nd half then the man is delusional

Man UNited fan here.
United were the better team for 40 mins, Chelsea for 50 and then in extra time, it was a bit more even.
Overall, the better team last night drew!
Okay, the better team lost on the night, but the better team over the course of the season, in their own league and in Europe, won.
Of course Ferguson is myopic, but tell me any club that wouldn't want him manager of their side with his record? Of course Rafa the Gaffa always calls it straight.

[jmurphyc]

not the managers decision on penalty takers he should have organised order a bit better . if players dont have the b*lls to step up what can manager do at least terry was man enough to step up .. but ballack should have been left as last penalty taker

I understand what you're saying, but it is the manager's decision on who takes penalties. Okay, if nobody else on the team was willing to take one of the first five, then I guess it could only be JT if he was willing. But he should be attempting to calm them all with a relaxed talk before asking who is willing so that some may change their minds. In the 2005 final Carragher was desperate to take a penalty and Benitez supposedly totally refused even though he was really up for it. So Grant could have told Terry that he couldn't take one. As I said, I thought Chelsea had it in the bag and then as soon as I saw Terry walking up I knew it would go to sudden death.

[jmurphyc]

Actually, I was just thinking of other players sent off in finals, and of course Zidane suddenly popped in to my head. As much as Drogba is a cheating **** and Zidane was generally loved for his ability on the pitch, nobody seems to be sypathising with Drogba today - everyone seems to agree that he got what his reputation deserved - but after the '06 World Cup Final there seemed to be a lot of good will towards ZZ. Now, as I said, there's no doubt that Drogba is a total cokc but Zidane's actions were far worse than Drogba's (IMO).

[Block G Raptor]

Of course Ferguson is myopic, but tell me any club that wouldn't want him manager of their side with his record? Of course Rafa the Gaffa always calls it straight.

I agree his record stands for itself, but I just can't stomach the man. He moans at everything that doesn't go his way He NEVER admits that he got something wrong or that his team was beaten by a better team. He takes no responsibility when things go wrong(Grey Jersey's indeed ) and takes the plaudits when things go well, he uses ridiculous mind game tactics to unsettle the opposition and referees. He is NEVER gracious in defeat and alway obnoxious in victory.

[jmurphyc]

I agree his record stands for itself, but I just can't stomach the man. He moans at everything that doesn't go his way He NEVER admits that he got something wrong or that his team was beaten by a better team. He takes no responsibility when things go wrong and takes the plaudits when things go well, he uses ridiculous mind game tactics to unsettle the opposition and referees. He his NEVER gracious in defeat and alway obnoxious in victory.

Exactly. When they lost to Chelsea in the league he came out with - amongst other things - the ludicrous statement that a penalty shouldn't decide such a big game. I understand that he feels he needs to protect his players from the spotlight, but there's a certain way of going about things.

[old git]

I agree his record stands for itself, but I just can't stomach the man. He moans at everything that doesn't go his way He NEVER admits that he got something wrong or that his team was beaten by a better team. He takes no responsibility when things go wrong(Grey Jersey's indeed ) and takes the plaudits when things go well, he uses ridiculous mind game tactics to unsettle the opposition and referees. He is NEVER gracious in defeat and alway obnoxious in victory.

he has he bad moments but now 23 years with a club like man utd he must be doing something right .. like all the other managers ,, how many admit they were wrong / moan at decisons that go against them they all do it / ridiculous mind games with players & managers they are are profesional people and should be all i used to it by now ,, as for talking the plaudits when things go well why not he is the manager after all ..

[NeilMcD]

Very entertaining game in my view. Utd were streets ahead in the first half and could have been 2 or 3 up. Chelsea got a lucky equaliser but then were the much better team in the second half. It was an even extra time really so a draw was a fair result. Then you have the penalties which comes down to luck skill and bottle.

Delighted for John Terry he is a nasty bit of stuff and along with Dessie Byrne was involved in a very unsavoury incident. He was not much of a captain in tears after the game only thinking of his own pain whereas there was Lampard who appears to be a bit of a classy guy holding himself together even though he lost his mother.

Ronaldo shut up the doubters as he scored in a big game. In the end hard luck to Avram Runner up Grant.

[NeilMcD]

I agree his record stands for itself, but I just can't stomach the man. He moans at everything that doesn't go his way He NEVER admits that he got something wrong or that his team was beaten by a better team. He takes no responsibility when things go wrong(Grey Jersey's indeed ) and takes the plaudits when things go well, he uses ridiculous mind game tactics to unsettle the opposition and referees. He is NEVER gracious in defeat and alway obnoxious in victory.

You really are a bitter Liverpool fan.

[osarusan]

Got up at 3.30 in the morning to watch it, and for a while I thought I'd fall asleep pretty quickly.

First half - United were superior, and I thought they could have had a couple more before Lampard equalised.

Second half - Chelsea were superior, but didn't create as many clear cut chances as United had in the first half.

Extra-time - Pretty even, Chelsea probably shaded it.

Drogba deserved his red, but I thought he didn't dive as much as usual, hardly at all in fact. I actually thought he'd played well until the red card.

People on here are whinging about Chelsea players harrassing the ref, but from what I saw, Hargreaves was as bad as anybody.

A few posters have said Tevez was their MOTM, I couldn't agree with that, I thought he huffed and puffed, but not much else. For me, Vidic was the best player on the pitch, although I thought Ballack did well also. Lampard was ineffective apart from his lucky goal.

[WoodquayBoy]

I agree his record stands for itself, but I just can't stomach the man. He moans at everything that doesn't go his way He NEVER admits that he got something wrong or that his team was beaten by a better team. He takes no responsibility when things go wrong(Grey Jersey's indeed ) and takes the plaudits when things go well, he uses ridiculous mind game tactics to unsettle the opposition and referees. He is NEVER gracious in defeat and alway obnoxious in victory.

Read my previous post, I said he was myopic. But I repeat, I don't believe you wouldn't have him as a manager

[jmurphyc]

Read my previous post, I said he was myopic. But I repeat, I don't believe you wouldn't have him as a manager

I don't see why any of the other top English clubs would want him (in Mourinho's time, still nobody seems to commend Grant), much like Utd wouldn't want any of the others. Wenger has done a fantastic job at Arsenal, Mourinho did a fantastic job at Chelsea and Grant is carrying on the trend to an extent, and Benitez has done a fanstastic job at Liverpool. None of the big 4 wants the others, as everyone is content with their own managers. There's no proof to suggest that if Ferguson was managing one of the other teams that he'd do any better. In fact I think he'd do worse, much like the rest would do worse than him at Utd.

[Block G Raptor]

Read my previous post, I said he was myopic. But I repeat, I don't believe you wouldn't have him as a manager

I know you said he's myopic, I could think of a few other words for him but I'll settle for myopic coming from a Man Utd fan as the majority of ye wouldn't even go that far. as for us wanting him, Thanks but no thanks, he's just not Liverpool material he's too obnoxious (and before you say it I know Benitez has his obnoxious moments but he's not in the same league as ferguson in the obnoxius stakes) Like I said you cant argue with his Trophy haul but just compare him to a thorough Gentleman like Bob Paisley and tell me Ferguson is not a Git

As for Neil McD my opinion of Ferguson nothing to do with Bitterness or being a Liverpool fan. I'm old enough to remember him managing Aberdeen and I hated him then too