The selection team

This is an absolute joke of a selection panel. Here was me thinking the FAI were going to take this serious after getting rid of Stan...more fool me, bad times are still here for another campaign.

how will a two man work:
lets say don wants one man and the other don wants someone else. how will they make a decision

How can an under 21 manager who admits he is at sea with todays proffesional game be given the job of selectin in affect his own boss?

Originally Posted by eekers

how will a two man work:
lets say don wants one man and the other don wants someone else. how will they make a decision

Easy! the CEO has the casting vote!

Farcical stuff,

"Don, who do you think is the best candidate we've seen so far?"
"Well Don, Terry was convincing even if he seeemed to have cut himself shaving this morning"
"So Don, who gets the job?"
"Don, I think it's got to be Terry"
"Shall we interview any of these other candidates first Don?"
"No Don, we've been at this job 20 minutes and I need to use the toilet"

What happened to Bobby Robson? I seem to remember him being against the appointment of TV after it was "known" that he would be on the selection committee. Am I being too cynical thinking that that's why he's not on it anymore.

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

What happened to Bobby Robson? I seem to remember him being against the appointment of TV after it was "known" that he would be on the selection committee. Am I being too cynical thinking that that's why he's not on it anymore.

one of the newspapers today reported the exact same thing. although i suspect don howe would have pretty much the same line of thinking as robson.

And what's happened to John Giles? I know he'd said something about only having a casual role but surely either he's involved or he's not.

(Apologies if this has already been cleared up - I get confused with the whole thing at times!)

Originally Posted by HolylandsMan

And what's happened to John Giles? I know he'd said something about only having a casual role but surely either he's involved or he's not.

(Apologies if this has already been cleared up - I get confused with the whole thing at times!)

giles didnt want to be involved in the decision making process. becasue he'd be compromised as a pundit (which is his livelyhood). he wouldnt be able to give impartial critical analysis on the manager if he helped select the manager.

Pat Walker would have been an excellent person to have involved in the selection / advisory process.

It's a pity his call fell on deaf ears.

Originally Posted by eekers

giles didnt want to be involved in the decision making process. becasue he'd be compromised as a pundit (which is his livelyhood). he wouldnt be able to give impartial critical analysis on the manager if he helped select the manager.

Giles is a close confidante of John Delaney and you can bet he has had his input into the process even though it may not be through 'official' channels.

giles didnt want to be involved in the decision making process. becasue he'd be compromised as a pundit (which is his livelyhood). he wouldnt be able to give impartial critical analysis on the manager if he helped select the manager.

Was that not what he said before he approached Jewell? Surely a bit of a contradiction? Although i suppose if he may feel willing to approach a candidate when asked to do so rather being involved in choosing the actual candidate.

As with even the simplest of actions involving the FAI, it's all a bit murky and unclear.

I was under the impression initially that Giles was to assist in 'headhunting the headhunters', as it were, and would not be involved in the actual managerial selection process, However, his conversation with Jewell , and subsequent alleged interactions, make me believe otherwise. Similar , in fact to John "I'm not getting involved in contacting candidates" Delaney getting involved by contacting a candidate.

The whole scenario leads me to think that if an FAI officer were to accidently tell the truth, they would immediately outstretch their suddenly-shaking hands, emit an ear peircing shriek, and collapse into dust.

Could it be that Giles was just so convinced about Jewell and he was so frustrated by the FAI's lethargy in the face of one or two imminent club job offerings that Giles felt compelled to try and sell the job to Jewell? Now, in the absence of a clear front runner in Giles' mind he doesn't feel compelled to get involved.

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Could it be that Giles was just so convinced about Jewell and he was so frustrated by the FAI's lethargy in the face of one or two imminent club job offerings that Giles felt compelled to try and sell the job to Jewell? Now, in the absence of a clear front runner in Giles' mind he doesn't feel compelled to get involved.

thats exactly it. on newstalk on thursday giles said he doesnt know who should get the job whereas before he wouldnt shut up about jewell

Originally Posted by eekers

one of the newspapers today reported the exact same thing. although i suspect don howe would have pretty much the same line of thinking as robson.

In spite of the optically awkward relationship between Venables and Howe (in the context of objectivity) I have heard separately that BOTH Robson & Howe were negative on Venables.

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Could it be that Giles was just so convinced about Jewell and he was so frustrated by the FAI's lethargy in the face of one or two imminent club job offerings that Giles felt compelled to try and sell the job to Jewell? Now, in the absence of a clear front runner in Giles' mind he doesn't feel compelled to get involved.

Thats eminently believable, but if it was Giles acting independently, it does make the reasoning behind Delaney's follow-up call all the more murky...

exactly venables wont be recommended, members of the fai board dont want him either.
some half way compromise candidate will get the job in the same way mc laren got the england job

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Could it be that Giles was just so convinced about Jewell and he was so frustrated by the FAI's lethargy in the face of one or two imminent club job offerings that Giles felt compelled to try and sell the job to Jewell? Now, in the absence of a clear front runner in Giles' mind he doesn't feel compelled to get involved.

Firstly, Giles has been out of the game for over 30 years. What makes anyone think he would be a good choice for selecting a new manager, bearing in mind he failed as an Irish manager many moons ago.

Secondly, I think we know the "selection committee" idea is a tactical move by Delaney to avoid the flak he got when Stan's appointment failed. It's a "FAI-CE" saving exercise if it goes pear shaped again.

Thirdly, DOnald Duck and Mickey Mouse could be on the selection committee but they'd still only have about 5 candidates to choose from.

Fourthly, Delaney will pick the manager in the end having listened to the voice of the experts.

What's that got to do with the quoted section above? I was merely commenting on why I thought Giles was involved in contacting Jewell despite saying he'd stay out of it and has gone quiet now.