He's gone...with a €1million pay off

**Drumcondra 69er** · 24/10/2007, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Schlooooomp

Interesting statistics there Supreme feet. Sky Sports News were showing the win percentages for Irish managers back to Jack, Kerr had the highest, in the mid 50s I think. Though he did love to win his friendlies, to the detriment of developing the squad.

Be interesting to see their respective records in qualifying fixtures.

**SuperDave** · 24/10/2007, 12:39 PM

and the stats should be last seventeen games for Kerr, not first 17.

anyone remember Kerr's first game? Scotland friendly?

edit: another thing, what happened the all time results list on fai.ie. it's disappeared. anyone know where it went?

**citizenerased** · 24/10/2007, 12:41 PM

yeah 2-0 in hampden..morrison scored

**SuperDave** · 24/10/2007, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by citizenerased

yeah 2-0 in hampden..morrison scored

Kerr competitive (after losing first two games in euro 04 qualifiers):

Played 16 Won 7 Drawn 7 Lost 2 For: 19 Against: 10
Pts/Games Ratio: 1.75 Goal Diff/Games Ratio: +0.56

Stan competitive:

Played 11 Won 4 Drawn 4 Lost 3 For: 15 Against: 12
Pts/Games Ratio: 1.45 Goal Diff/Games Ratio: +0.27

Mick McCarthy competitive (from wc98 qualifiers on):

Played 40 Won 19 Drawn 13 Lost 8 For: 73 Against: 33
Pts/Games Ratio: 1.75 Goal Diff/Games Ratio: +1

I think those figures are accurate but I did add them up in my head (the goals i mean. The results are fine).

So while Kerr was more defensive, his record (pts/games) was exactly the same as McCarthy's. Stan's is much, much worse.

**citizenerased** · 24/10/2007, 1:28 PM

4 wins for stan 2 against san marino, 1 against wales and 1 slovakia at home
worst irish manager of all time FACTTTTTTTTTT

**joeSoap** · 24/10/2007, 9:37 PM

Hardly surprising , given the degree of stupidity of his employers. It would be like giving a junior doctor a surgeons scalpel.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 24/10/2007, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by joeSoap

Hardly surprising , given the degree of stupidity of his employers. It would be like giving a junior doctor a surgeons scalpel.

More like giving a 3rd Year Medical Student one......

**danonion** · 25/10/2007, 1:43 AM

Originally Posted by citizenerased

yeah 2-0 in hampden..morrison scored

I was thinking of making a new thread, but this reminded me so i'll stick it here. I think the crap goalies we have now make our whole team worse. I got a chance to see the training session in Hampden and I recall Kiely making making outrageous saves. Having two or three good keepers like Given, Kiely and Kelly (debatable) a number of years back had to have made our attackers sharper. Scoring goals against muck like C. Doyle and Colgan in training couldn't do much for a striker before a game.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 25/10/2007, 7:26 AM

Originally Posted by danonion

I was thinking of making a new thread, but this reminded me so i'll stick it here. I think the crap goalies we have now make our whole team worse. I got a chance to see the training session in Hampden and I recall Kiely making making outrageous saves. Having two or three good keepers like Given, Kiely and Kelly (debatable) a number of years back had to have made our attackers sharper. Scoring goals against muck like C. Doyle and Colgan in training couldn't do much for a striker before a game.

It's a fair point . On the other hand proponents of muscle memory say scoring goals in practice against anybody helps you to do it on the field. Though in the case of messrs. Keane and Doyle I'd have to say where the Irish team are concerned I would be more on your side of the fence on this point!

**joeSoap** · 25/10/2007, 11:15 AM

Can't say that its a fair point. It's quite alarming to think that any quality striker would worry about any keeper, let alone think about them in training. A quality striker will score goals against any keeper. A keeper is only as good as the 4 men directly in front of him. Might I suggest that Robbie Keane and Kevin Doyle be more worried about the class of centre-half that they're training against rather than the keepers?

**danonion** · 25/10/2007, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by joeSoap

Can't say that its a fair point. It's quite alarming to think that any quality striker would worry about any keeper, let alone think about them in training. A quality striker will score goals against any keeper. A keeper is only as good as the 4 men directly in front of him. Might I suggest that Robbie Keane and Kevin Doyle be more worried about the class of centre-half that they're training against rather than the keepers?

Excellent point. Training sessions must have some odd formations with only three centre-backs in the squad. But my point about the goalkeepers still stands. How often do our strikers take a ball down well, and donate the shot to the opposing goalkeeper? Same with headers right into the keepers arms.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 26/10/2007, 7:45 AM

danonion

Too often you're dead on

**danonion** · 26/10/2007, 9:19 PM

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

danonion

Too often you're dead on

Stop taking the ****

**CollegeTillIDie** · 26/10/2007, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by danonion

Stop taking the ****

I am not taking the p*** you daft ****!

**co. down green** · 27/10/2007, 9:22 AM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-1206105.html

Staunton was struggling. As one player put it this week: "Stan just about carried it off in the dressing-room because of who he was, not what he said. But, just because you get 102 caps as a player, doesn't mean you understand what's needed to be an international manager."