Steven Reid

**Duggie** · 03/09/2009, 10:20 AM

wonder will he be included for the friendly v SA. get some game time under his belt.

**shakermaker1982** · 03/09/2009, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Duggie

wonder will he be included for the friendly v SA. get some game time under his belt.

I imagine Sam will keep him at home. Wolves let Doyle go off to play in an international friendly to get fit and only got injured (again) resulting in him missing the start of the season. Reid needs to be eased back in gently. Please let him be fit for the Italian game.

**Duggie** · 03/09/2009, 10:31 AM

maybe give him a half get his fitness up. depends i suppose. cant wait for him to get back fully fit as you say.

**Junior** · 03/09/2009, 12:31 PM

Would trap throw him in to the starting 11 against Italy though? even if fit and a few premiership games under his belt, would he change the Andrews & Whelan partnership?

How many games has S Reid started under Trap, I know almost every poster here would want him started and are longing for his return but somehow Im not so sure that Trap feels that his return will mean an automatic change?

Hopefully, that is a decision he does at least have to make.

**Jicked** · 03/09/2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

Would trap throw him in to the starting 11 against Italy though? even if fit and a few premiership games under his belt, would he change the Andrews & Whelan partnership?

How many games has S Reid started under Trap, I know almost every poster here would want him started and are longing for his return but somehow Im not so sure that Trap feels that his return will mean an automatic change?

Hopefully, that is a decision he does at least have to make.

Trap has always been a big fan of Steven Reid, even playing a not 100% match fit Reid in Podgorica. If he's fit he'll slot straight back in to the starting eleven without a doubt.

**Duggie** · 03/09/2009, 12:38 PM

at the minute steven reid and whelan for me. trap seems to really like whelan. andrews to drop out IMO.

**Junior** · 03/09/2009, 12:41 PM

If one of the stato's has the analysis.....Who have the starting midfield duo been in all of Traps games to date?

Im sure he does rate Reid very highly (as do I), its just that other players have become his regular midfield over the last 6-12 months and Im not sure he would change it just like that.

Just a thought.......

**Duggie** · 03/09/2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

If one of the stato's has the analysis.....Who have the starting midfield duo been in all of Traps games to date?

Im sure he does rate Reid very highly (as do I), its just that other players have become his regular midfield over the last 6-12 months and Im not sure he would change it just like that.

Just a thought.......

nah 100 per cent trap will have reid as first choice, with whelan i think.

**elroy** · 03/09/2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Murfinator

We need to look to the long term for Reid, in reality another serious injury and his career could be toast. It'd be reckless to throw him into a high intensity game like this until he's fully ready.

Id be surprised if he starts any game for us this campaign except for maybe the playoffs. I cant see him getting 4/5 full 90 mins games between now and the Italian game and that is what he would need before he should be considered for a starting spot.

**DeLorean** · 03/09/2009, 1:09 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

Would trap throw him in to the starting 11 against Italy though? even if fit and a few premiership games under his belt, would he change the Andrews & Whelan partnership?

I would hope so!! It's not like he'd be upsetting a blossoming partnership or anything. Anyway I doubt it will come to that as I'd imagine this will be the case...

Originally Posted by elroy

Id be surprised if he starts any game for us this campaign except for maybe the playoffs. I cant see him getting 4/5 full 90 mins games between now and the Italian game and that is what he would need before he should be considered for a starting spot.

**tetsujin1979** · 03/09/2009, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

If one of the stato's has the analysis.....Who have the starting midfield duo been in all of Traps games to date?

here you go

Code:

Home                Result Away                   Starting CM
Republic of Ireland   1-1  Serbia                 Liam Miller   Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   1-0  Colombia               Glenn Whelan  Liam Miller   
Norway                1-1  Republic of Ireland    Steven Reid   Glenn Whelan  
Georgia               1-2  Republic of Ireland    Steven Reid   Glenn Whelan  
Montenegro            0-0  Republic of Ireland    Glenn Whelan  Steven Reid   
Republic of Ireland   1-0  Cyprus                 Darron Gibson Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   2-3  Poland                 Darron Gibson Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   2-1  Georgia                Keith Andrews Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   1-1  Bulgaria               Keith Andrews Glenn Whelan  
Italy                 1-1  Republic of Ireland    Keith Andrews Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   1-1  Nigeria                Keith Andrews Liam Miller   
Bulgaria              1-1  Republic of Ireland    Glenn Whelan  Keith Andrews 
Republic of Ireland   0-3  Australia              Glenn Whelan  Darron Gibson

I didn't realise Whelan had started all but one of Trapattoni's games to date

**Duggie** · 03/09/2009, 1:23 PM

whelans played all but 1.

**Junior** · 03/09/2009, 2:33 PM

And S Reid has only featured three times which is more to the point surely? Im just playing devils advocate here but how is everyone so **** sure that Trap would definitely have Reid in the starting 11 as soon as he is fit. By the way Im not saying he shouldnt be....

Cheers for the stats Tets.

**Duggie** · 03/09/2009, 2:38 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

And S Reid has only featured three times which is more to the point surely? Im just playing devils advocate here but how is everyone so **** sure that Trap would definitely have Reid in the starting 11 as soon as he is fit. By the way Im not saying he shouldnt be....

Cheers for the stats Tets.

trap thinks a lot of reid's ability. he and whelan formed a nice partnership before reid got injured. esp in the first half against georgia when we played some nice passing football. reid is a def starter when he comes back.

**DeLorean** · 03/09/2009, 2:47 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

how is everyone so **** sure that Trap would definitely have Reid in the starting 11 as soon as he is fit

Because he has a bit of a brain

**elroy** · 03/09/2009, 3:33 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

here you go

Code:

Home                Result Away                   Starting CM
Republic of Ireland   1-1  Serbia                 Liam Miller   Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   1-0  Colombia               Glenn Whelan  Liam Miller   
Norway                1-1  Republic of Ireland    Steven Reid   Glenn Whelan  
Georgia               1-2  Republic of Ireland    Steven Reid   Glenn Whelan  
Montenegro            0-0  Republic of Ireland    Glenn Whelan  Steven Reid   
Republic of Ireland   1-0  Cyprus                 Darron Gibson Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   2-3  Poland                 Darron Gibson Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   2-1  Georgia                Keith Andrews Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   1-1  Bulgaria               Keith Andrews Glenn Whelan  
Italy                 1-1  Republic of Ireland    Keith Andrews Glenn Whelan  
Republic of Ireland   1-1  Nigeria                Keith Andrews Liam Miller   
Bulgaria              1-1  Republic of Ireland    Glenn Whelan  Keith Andrews 
Republic of Ireland   0-3  Australia              Glenn Whelan  Darron Gibson

I didn't realise Whelan had started all but one of Trapattoni's games to date

This is interesting (ignoring LM as he is not an option imo)
W&A record: 1W 3D
W&G: 1W 2L
W&R: 1W 2D

I think we'd agree that the above W&R or A&R would be our best option. The W&A stats sums up their partnership, very defensive orientated, wont give away much but aint gonna score many either. W&A should start on sat imo.

**third policeman** · 03/09/2009, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

Because he has a bit of a brain

And vastly more footballing ability as well.

**Stuttgart88** · 03/09/2009, 3:38 PM

I'm sure it'll be W & A.

I think Andrews has been better than a few here gice him credit for. Hodgson wanted him at Fulham which is a decent accolade.

For Ireland he adds bite & mobility. We're not that creative from midfield but we're not as porous as we were either. We look less secure with Gibson playing IMO.

**elroy** · 03/09/2009, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I'm sure it'll be W & A.

I think Andrews has been better than a few here gice him credit for. Hodgson wanted him at Fulham which is a decent accolade.

For Ireland he adds bite & mobility. We're not that creative from midfield but we're not as porous as we were either. We look less secure with Gibson playing IMO.

In fairness to both W&A, both have a decent strike on them. Andrews scored against poland and was unlucky against Bulgaria (i think, disallowed goal?). We really should be looking for a goal or two from them over the remaining games, maybe sat is the night.

**Stuttgart88** · 03/09/2009, 4:03 PM

Goals from midfield are crucial. Whelan got a lucky one in Mainz but otherwise we've only had Doyle (1), Robbie & Dunne (set pieces) on the scoresheet I think. At least set-pieces have contributed but there's too much onus on the front two in my opinion.