Stauntons Pay Off

[Billsthoughts]

I started a new thread for this cause I think its a seperate issue to The Steve Staunton discussion thread.....but....

What do people think of staunton holding out for 800,000€ owed on the remainder of his contract? Surely this money could be put to better use in Irish football. It could be spent on any number of things. From schoolboys up to Eircom League. Apparently he is a very well off individual as is. Why should he take a substantial sum out of Irish Football on what is basically him taking a huff with Delaney for not sticking by him.

Think Staunton made a complete balls of the Irish managers job and doesnt deserve any pay off regardless of whatever contract he had. I had a bit of sympathy for him up til now but think he should do the decent thing and resign without a pay off.

[Sheridan]

Would you? He's got a contract, he should get what's due to him just as any employee should. Yes, the money could, would and should be better spent on domestic football but it was going to be spunked on the national team regardless of whether a pay-off was incurred or not.

[macdermesser]

Why should he let the FAI off the hook? They were the people who in their wisdom gave a four year contract .. 4 years !!!!! .... to a complete novice, giving him a salary worth more than many managers in World Football?

Whatever about his incompetence as a manager .. the person(s) who employed are guilty of even greater incompetence.

If any of us here were in Stan's position, I'm not sure we'd be keen to be so generous as to give money to our employer for sacking us.

[paul_oshea]

i still dont understand how a person can be paid for more than he has worked, teh whole idea of Contracting or being tied to a contract is you are paid for the time you have worked.....this makes absoloutely no sense to me that staunton under-achieving gets the boot, yet he stilll gets paid for not being in the position....

[Sligo Hornet]

i still dont understand how a person can be paid for more than he has worked, teh whole idea of Contracting or being tied to a contract is you are paid for the time you have worked.....this makes absoloutely no sense to me that staunton under-achieving gets the boot, yet he stilll gets paid for not being in the position....

You're right Paul.....doesn't make sense in any other profession....except in Football, where failure is rewarded ( with the paying off of a contract in full ).......pure NONSENSE....but eh....that's football!!

[Dodge]

i still dont understand how a person can be paid for more than he has worked, teh whole idea of Contracting or being tied to a contract is you are paid for the time you have worked.....this makes absoloutely no sense to me that staunton under-achieving gets the boot, yet he stilll gets paid for not being in the position....

Its probably because there was no target/outcome set in his contract, and therefore he can't be sacked. If the FAI want to break the contract, they must pay for it...

[Dotsy]

Its probably because there was no target/outcome set in his contract, and therefore he can't be sacked. If the FAI want to break the contract, they must pay for it...

Exactly. FAI incompetence again. Just pay the man what he is owed under the contact he signed and lets move on.

[paul_oshea]

Its probably because there was no target/outcome set in his contract, and therefore he can't be sacked. If the FAI want to break the contract, they must pay for it...

well, how thick are they. Do they never learn. In fairness to set out objectives would not be undermining your faith in a manager just being realistic.

BTW, how much in total including kelly, byrne, macdonald, staunton and robson are they FAI paying a year?

[Dodge]

BTW, how much in total including kelly, byrne, macdonald, staunton and robson are they FAI paying a year?

Devlin, Givens...

[Wolfie]

There were unsubstantiated figures mentioned in the weekends press of 6m over 4 years to the successor.

Regardless of who we get, the contract should be an initial fixed term of 2 years with a review of progress at that stage.

[elroy]

Agree with Wolfie, two year contract with a two year option. Thats the approach that shouldve been followed with Stan as well. The FAI must learn some lessons from this mess.

Considering the FA were paying Eriksson for a long time after he left the england i reckon stan will be paid for his two years unfulfilled on his contract.

[Billsthoughts]

Would you? He's got a contract, he should get what's due to him just as any employee should. Yes, the money could, would and should be better spent on domestic football but it was going to be spunked on the national team regardless of whether a pay-off was incurred or not.

well if I had a rake of cash already and made a complete sham of the job I was paid hansomely to do then I would have the decency to resign.

[Claret Murph]

Wolfie has it spot on , whoever we get a two year term is the max and then they can look at it after the World cup and so on .

[BaZmO*]

I started a new thread for this cause I think its a seperate issue to The Steve Staunton discussion thread.....but....

What do people think of staunton holding out for 800,000€ owed on the remainder of his contract? Surely this money could be put to better use in Irish football. It could be spent on any number of things. From schoolboys up to Eircom League. Apparently he is a very well off individual as is. Why should he take a substantial sum out of Irish Football on what is basically him taking a huff with Delaney for not sticking by him.

Think Staunton made a complete balls of the Irish managers job and doesnt deserve any pay off regardless of whatever contract he had. I had a bit of sympathy for him up til now but think he should do the decent thing and resign without a pay off.

Huh? What's it look up there in cloud cuckoo land?

Staunton may have made a total balls up of his tenure as the Ireland Manager but he signed a contract with the clowns in the FAI and as it's them that are terminating his contract he is every bit entitled to a severance package. I'm sure you'd do the same if you were in his position.

[galwayhoop]

he is fully entitled to the remaining money due to him for the remainder of his contract.

I would love to be a fly on the wall when they start talking about his pay off:

Delaney: Alright Stan, it didn't work out and we all need to move on.
Stan:We all know that.
Delaney: Ok so, exactly how much do we need to pay you to step aside in the interests of Irish Football?
Stan: You tell me!!!

[Billsthoughts]

Huh? What's it look up there in cloud cuckoo land?

Staunton may have made a total balls up of his tenure as the Ireland Manager but he signed a contract with the clowns in the FAI and as it's them that are terminating his contract he is every bit entitled to a severance package. I'm sure you'd do the same if you were in his position.

yeah I understand the nature of contracts I was just making a point about the morals of a) extracting money that can be better used elsewhere for work you have not done and b) especially given you made such a mess of the job in the first place. For FAI read everyone involved in football looking for cash.
So you can save your stupid comments. idiot.

[Ireland4ever]

He's got a contract, he should get what's due to him just as any employee should.

But he's not any old employee and its not a normal job. He's in charge of our national team, and if he had any sort of honour and love for his country he would resign and forfeit any payment, he would gain a hell of a lot of respect if he did so....Otherwise it will leave a bitter taste in peoples mouths regarding our most capped player.

[fergalr]

Staunton has every right to hold out for his pay-off but, in contrast, Kevin Keegan had the decency and honesty to hold up his hands, admit he wasn't up to he job of managing his country and walk there and then.

[BaZmO*]

yeah I understand the nature of contracts I was just making a point about the morals of a) extracting money that can be better used elsewhere for work you have not done and b) especially given you made such a mess of the job in the first place. For FAI read everyone involved in football looking for cash.
So you can save your stupid comments. idiot.

No need for insults Bill.

Staunton may have made a mess so far but I'm sure he feels that his employers are letting him down by not giving him the chance to put things right by allowing him to stay in charge for the rest of his contract.

I'm sure he'd rather stay in charge to the end of his contract rather than be paid off so he's doing nothing immoral by receiving a pay off. He just been compensated for not being allowed to put things right (in his eyes).

[Ireland4ever]

No need for insults Bill.

Staunton may have made a mess so far but I'm sure he feels that his employers are letting him down by not giving him the chance to put things right by allowing him to stay in charge for the rest of his contract.

I'm sure he'd rather stay in charge to the end of his contract rather than be paid off so he's doing nothing immoral by receiving a pay off. He just been compensated for not being allowed to put things right (in his eyes).

Surely Stan knows that NO-ONE in the country wants him to stay. he's been in the football world to realise that things have gone to far, with results and all, and that it is an impossible task to turn things around at this stage. He should do the decent thing and re-sign a la Keegan for England. Its as simple as that.