Final standings/Europe/Setanta

**pete** · 22/10/2007, 9:39 PM

Pats very strong favourites for 2nd place now.

3rd is the best we can hope for now. If we win last 2 league games will guarantee it. Inter Toto not appealing.

Fridays Cup semi final all or nothing for Bohs-City.

**FarmHoop** · 22/10/2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by JC_GUFC

Champions & Champions League: Drogheda

UEFA Cup: League Runners-up & FAI Cup Winners
If the league runners-up win the FAI Cup, then 3rd place in the league qualifies for UEFA Cup.

Intertoto Cup: League 3rd place, or as above 4th place if cup winners finish either 2nd or 3rd.

Setanta Cup: Drogheda, FAI Cup Winners, UEFA Cup qualifier & Derry City or 1st Division Champions.

Bottlers: Shamrock Rovers

At least we're up there

**JC_GUFC** · 23/10/2007, 8:56 AM

Originally Posted by FarmHoop

At least we're up there

At least we've something to play for!

**DvB** · 23/10/2007, 9:51 AM

Originally Posted by JC_GUFC

At least we've something to play for!

Rather be losing games in our position than yours though!! Could be a nasty drop on the way!!

Koh

**Graemerz** · 23/10/2007, 10:14 AM

As you are probably aware it will be Linfield, Glentoran, Dungannon and Cliftonville representing the CPL in the Setanta Cup. Expect a strong challenge from Linfield as always. The other teams will give a few problems and they might get the odd result but realistically given it will be towards the end of our season and they lack squad strength they’ll probably be unsuccessful. Although only 5 games into the league campaign Linfield, Glentoran and Cliftonville are all joint top. Dungannon however are languishing towards the bottom of the table.

**Dodge** · 23/10/2007, 10:19 AM

Am I right in saying this is the first year without Portadown, and the first year with Cliftonville?

Its fairly interesting that at this stage of our season there's still loads and loads of teams in witha shout of Setanta

League winners - Drogheda
League Runners Up - Pats/Bohs/Cork
FAI Cup Winners - Cork/Bohs/UCD/Longford
Setanta Play off - Derry/Finn Harps/Cobh/Dundalk

**Schumi** · 23/10/2007, 12:02 PM

Dundalk is stretching it, still 9 teams with realistic chances (8 after the weekend) is good.

**fitzknows** · 23/10/2007, 12:05 PM

Reckon that Harps have an excellent chance of not only winning the First division but also making the Setanta Cup.
What's the latest on the new stadium Harps fans?

**Graemerz** · 23/10/2007, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Am I right in saying this is the first year without Portadown, and the first year with Cliftonville?

Yes. I would expect Cliftonville to do much better than Portadown have done in the competition...

**Dalymountrower** · 23/10/2007, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

I will be more than happy if you give you that point as it would secure me �250.

Also hopefully Bohs won't make it into the top 3- from what I've seen of them they're not as good as Pats, Cork or Rovers.

Reckon you need a new anorak there Dman, Bohs have beaten Pats three out of four (drawn one), have beaten Cork City twice (lost one), two wins one draw one loss against Rovers and drew twice won once and lost once against Drogs. We didn`t challenge for the title this year because we were incapable of raising our game against minnow clubs like yours.

**Schumi** · 23/10/2007, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

we were incapable of raising our game against minnow clubs like yours.

Connor out?

**Sam_Heggy** · 23/10/2007, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by fitzknows

Reckon that Harps have an excellent chance of not only winning the First division but also making the Setanta Cup.
What's the latest on the new stadium Harps fans?

Waiting on Solicitors to get all papers signed, its a complicated dea, what with us being a co-op, the transfer of 2 pieces of land, the developers interest, etc, they cant make any f**k ups, so we hoping to get more news before the end of '07 and diggers to start by the start of '08. I suppose its just a waiting game. We were meant to be moved in for the start of this season so......................................

It would be a massive boost for us to gain that Setanta cup spot both financially and the shorter away trips to IL teams would be very welcome. I still think Derry would be favourites for this spot, but I can guarantee they will not relish coming up against us.
That said, this is counting our chickens and Cobh have still a massive say.

**Dodge** · 23/10/2007, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

We didn`t challenge for the title this year because we were incapable of raising our game against minnow clubs like yours.

If they were minnows, surely you wouldn't need to raise your game.

**btid1** · 23/10/2007, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

If they were minnows, surely you wouldn't need to raise your game.

In fairness he may not be making the point in a politically correct manner but it has been Bohs inability to beat teams from the lower half of the table that has cost us any chance of a league title this year.

We have performed very well against teams in the top 5 of so but outside of that we have lost games to Longford,Sligo and UCD this year and that is what will inevitably stop us from coming first or in my opinion second now!

**Dodge** · 23/10/2007, 1:45 PM

Originally Posted by btid1

We have performed very well against teams in the top 5 of so but outside of that we have lost games to Longford,Sligo and UCD this year and that is what will inevitably stop us from coming first or in my opinion second now!

But what team doesn't have a "what if" line? We got 1 point off Bohs when our performances deserved 4/5. Give us 4 points extra and we're home and dried for second.

If it wasn't for our mid season slump we'd be challenging Drogheda.

Ifs and buts have no place in football.

**btid1** · 23/10/2007, 2:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

But what team doesn't have a "what if" line? We got 1 point off Bohs when our performances deserved 4/5. Give us 4 points extra and we're home and dried for second.

If it wasn't for our mid season slump we'd be challenging Drogheda.

Ifs and buts have no place in football.

Drogheda dont have any ifs or buts in terms of the league.....

Orginally Dalymountrower was trying to refute the argument made by Dman that Bohs are not a good side.Our record against the top sides clearly contests this.

I was merely pointing out where we have fallen down this season.And it has been our inconsistency.Excellent one week terrible the next.Not many teams in the league have had this jeckyl and hyde type characteristic to their performances this season.

**Dodge** · 23/10/2007, 2:42 PM

Originally Posted by btid1

Not many teams in the league have had this jeckyl and hyde type characteristic to their performances this season.

Every team bar one has...

**btid1** · 23/10/2007, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Every team bar one has...

Not to the extent Bohs have.Yes teams have had there good and bad patches during the season.Take Pats for example.You started very well and then hit a dip in form towards the middle of the season but are now back playing some really good stuff.

Bohs until the last few games have been totally inconsistent.We would beat Rovers then go and lose in Longford and follow this by beating Drogheda but then lose to Sligo.We didnt know which Bohs team would show up from week to week.

You would have to agree that no other team has had these traits unless you are going to continue to be pedantic about it...

**Schumi** · 23/10/2007, 3:22 PM

Originally Posted by btid1

Bohs until the last few games have been totally inconsistent.We would beat Rovers then go and lose in Longford and follow this by beating Drogheda but then lose to Sligo.We didnt know which Bohs team would show up from week to week.

You would have to agree that no other team has had these traits unless you are going to continue to be pedantic about it...

Sounds familiar. Lose 3-0 in Derry, win in Drogheda, lose 4-1 to Cork, lose to Sligo, win in Derry. Five consecutive games.

**btid1** · 23/10/2007, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Sounds familiar. Lose 3-0 in Derry, win in Drogheda, lose 4-1 to Cork, lose to Sligo, win in Derry. Five consecutive games.

Ok maybe Bohs AND UCD then had these sort of results but I wouldnt think many others had.Plus now Bohs have shown they can string results together after winning the last five league games it makes it all the more frustrating.