I hate to say it but....Come on Cyprus

**an_ceannaire** · 17/10/2007, 12:38 PM

For all the right reasons. We are out of the Euro's.
we have a squad more than capable of qualifying for the WC
Lose at home...to Cyprus...surely to God Delaney's hand will be forced. I think we have a squad to take on anyone except the very very best away, and in Croker...anyone.
Seedings Schmeedings. Get the right man in and we should be ok.
But winning tonight, finish third and nothing will be done. So, only for all the right reasons, as much as it kills me to say this.....I really do want Ireland, to Lose.

**Ireland4ever** · 17/10/2007, 12:41 PM

Regardless of how bad things get i dont think we should ever be looking for Ireland to lose.....We have to get behind the team!

**gustavo** · 17/10/2007, 12:45 PM

Dont think even if we lose all our remaining games stan would be out , he is here for at least the next campaign

**as_i_say** · 17/10/2007, 12:49 PM

Agree. was half hoping that if we were to lose to the germans that a 0-4 walloping would possibly have done something but andy reid put a stop to that! will get behind team tonight but if they have any pride at all we should be just going out there to completely hammer them like no other team before.

. I think John Toshack is right about international footie. I wonder if any of them really care at all. We should find out tonight when theres nothing at stake except pride. I hope the players proove me wrong and give cyprus a right belting.

**an_ceannaire** · 17/10/2007, 12:54 PM

I have a feeling, based on nothing I might add, but a feeling that Stan, being a proud man, if we do lose tonight and finish 4th will actually say Ok, I gave it a shot. It didnt work. I really think if we finish 4th then one way or another Stan will go , and for that reason, I do want us to lose. I4E i know what you mean, but you have to realise, in wanting them to lose, i am long term supporting them. Its for our own good. It really is. The long run is the future, the glimpse of hope we see when Shane Long/McShane.McGeady do something that you know shows their potential. With Stan in charge, Robbie stays captain, Kilbane stays in the team and things are still a tactical mess with confusion and resentment simmering. We will go nowhere and THAT is the worst possible thing for Irish Soccer. One result tonight might solve all that. And its a VERY VERY small sacrifice to make. Maybe there is a reason Robbie doesnt play particuarly well for Stan....he is top class for spurs, and we all know he loves MJ so..........get it...??
I am not anti Stan the man, i am anti stan the manager. I still have huge huge respect for Stan but he is just not a manager, not yet.

**RogerMilla** · 17/10/2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

For all the right reasons. We are out of the Euro's.
we have a squad more than capable of qualifying for the WC
Lose at home...to Cyprus...surely to God Delaney's hand will be forced. I think we have a squad to take on anyone except the very very best away, and in Croker...anyone.
Seedings Schmeedings. Get the right man in and we should be ok.
But winning tonight, finish third and nothing will be done. So, only for all the right reasons, as much as it kills me to say this.....I really do want Ireland, to Lose.

terrible stuff , wanting ireland to lose is nothign short of a disgrace.

**tetsujin1979** · 17/10/2007, 12:56 PM

If you hate to say, then don't.
Simple as.

**an_ceannaire** · 17/10/2007, 12:57 PM

Well shoot me at dawn because yes, and I will say it again, I want Ireland to lose. But for all the right reasons. Because without Stan we can make the WC, with Stan....no chance. Whats the bigger sacrifice....Cyprus, or the World Cup?

**citizenerased** · 17/10/2007, 1:01 PM

ya ever hear of seedings ceanaire, the difference between 3rd and 4th seeds will be very important

**lionelhutz** · 17/10/2007, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

Well shoot me at dawn because yes, and I will say it again, I want Ireland to lose. But for all the right reasons. Because without Stan we can make the WC, with Stan....no chance. Whats the bigger sacrifice....Cyprus, or the World Cup?

Even if they lose tonight he'll still be in the job for the next campaign cause of those dopes in fai. And there's no way he'll resign cause he thinks that will mean he's a quitter.

No stan, it would just mean you realise (at long, long last) that you're not cut out for mgt and you don't wanna humiliate your country anymore!!

**an_ceannaire** · 17/10/2007, 1:05 PM

Citizen i dont think it will
because....
Ireland with the right team picked are as good if not better than all the 3rd seeds, so i wouldnt fear any of them. If we have the right man in charge. Our best team picked from 15/16 bloody good players could compete with any of the 2nd seeds and could realistically beat many of the top seeds, WITH THE RIGHT MAN IN CHARGE, but whether we are third or 4th seeds is much of a muchness if u ask me because i think we would beat any of the 3rd seeds with a decent manager and the right team

**Armando** · 17/10/2007, 1:07 PM

Oh look another thread about why someone wants Ireland to lose...****ing pathetic

**an_ceannaire** · 17/10/2007, 1:14 PM

ok so....come on ireland.....lets beat cyprus...whhooppeeee cyprus....lets give stan and delaney more fodder to feed the media with....we came third....its all progress....its coming along nicely......keep them both in the job.....keep them in the world cup.....let them continue to mismanage and destroy the best crop we have had in years.....and go absolutely nowhere for years to come.....ya....great ....come on ireand. Brilliant. score against another kak team there robbie. Good man you are,

**Rebel11** · 17/10/2007, 1:24 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

ok so....come on ireland.....lets beat cyprus...whhooppeeee cyprus....lets give stan and delaney more fodder to feed the media with....we came third....its all progress....its coming along nicely......keep them both in the job.....keep them in the world cup.....let them continue to mismanage and destroy the best crop we have had in years.....and go absolutely nowhere for years to come.....ya....great ....come on ireand. Brilliant. score against another kak team there robbie. Good man you are,

Lets get behind the Team instead of this Rubbish Come on Cyprus. I hope your not going to the game tonight.

**an_ceannaire** · 17/10/2007, 1:26 PM

i am
lower hogan FF 335 if your looking for me!
I dont think ye realise my intentions are good!

**mackannovic** · 17/10/2007, 1:27 PM

There is nothing good that can possibly come from this game tonight its a Catch 22 situation we're in.

We win - Stan gets another stay of execution and we're left with the prospect of entering another qualifying campaign with this no-hoper.

We draw/lose - The teams behind us have an opportunity to push us further down the seedings for the WC.

Best case is probably a pi55 poor performance & 1-0 win, but with that will come the usual FAI spin "No easy games and it's another step in the righht direction" sh*t.

**an_ceannaire** · 17/10/2007, 1:29 PM

ok maybe i will hope for a 0-0 so lads....ok?!?!
Do i have ye're permission!

**lionelhutz** · 17/10/2007, 1:32 PM

Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

i am
lower hogan FF 335 if your looking for me!
I dont think ye realise my intentions are good!

You'd wanna get on your travels quickly if you wanna make kick off coming from limerick. then we mite get some sense spoken here

**Theskinloyal** · 17/10/2007, 1:33 PM

Really do want Ireland to lose this one. I don't care about seedings etc. Until Staunton, Delaney and the rest of the cronies in Merrion Square are gone for good will we have a team that the people can be proud of. I am willing to wait for that.

I know as well that this does a diservice to the current players espeically those who would like to play in another major tournament before bowing out but things have to change!

Maybe a home defeat to Cyprus will do that, however I doubt it but it won't help Delaney in his mission to f*ck up Irish football as much as possible!