Should Tony Cousins be retained as manager next season?

**galwayhoop** · 17/10/2007, 2:08 PM

Originally Posted by eamo1

Its bad form to be having this debate now.Things on this forum have a way of "getting out" to the players,managers etc.If an army was in the thick of a (relagation) battle would that be the best time to be debating whether or not to sack the General?????

well if the General was ploughing his troops into oncoming fire without a defined stragedy. If he was making his best artillery men fly the jets while the pilots were told to sail the ships. If he kept replenishing his already plentiful supply of helicopters while he really needed a jeep. If he had a large army who had been in full time training for a year but was unable to win battles against spear carrying aborginals who invaded his country then they probably would not just sack him but probably court marshal him!!!! so YES i suppose it is the time to have the debate!!

**WoodquayBoy** · 17/10/2007, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by galwayhoop

well if the General was ploughing his troops into oncoming fire without a defined stragedy. If he was making his best artillery men fly the jets while the pilots were told to sail the ships. If he kept replenishing his already plentiful supply of helicopters while he really needed a jeep. If he had a large army who had been in full time training for a year but was unable to win battles against spear carrying aborginals who invaded his country then they probably would not just sack him but probably court marshal him!!!! so YES i suppose it is the time to have the debate!!

Quality!!!!

**galwaygooner** · 17/10/2007, 8:18 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

Not one my town.Its great to have people telling the club how to do their business but no one on here is privy to the actual cost of running the club and rely on hearsay to form an opinion.

Some people seem to think that Tony only comes to Galway at weekends of matches and supervisers everything from Dublin which is far from the truth.

Gufct can you confirm what hours tc acually spends in Galway, i think i know but maybe you have different info to others

**inthestand99** · 17/10/2007, 9:10 PM

If you think you know gooner please share it with all the other geniuses. I know exactly how much time Tony puts in. I tried to refrain from getting in on this post because it sucks to be quite honest. The reality is ... people really do not have a clue the amount of people and the work they do to run this team, not the club ,just the team !. The club is another days work so to speak. Put away the hangmans nooses for the time being at least lads. We should be building a positive vibe about the weeks ahead.
How do people think Tony feels reading this bs.

**Conor H** · 17/10/2007, 9:15 PM

Will agree there inthestand.
Although i'm not a fan of TC we are entering 4 of the biggest weeks for UTD in a long time.

A win Friday and Waterford failing to get any points would mean we would effectively need only a draw against Derry/Waterford/UCD.

We need a huge effort from the players though.They owe Tony alot aswell.

**WoodquayBoy** · 17/10/2007, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by inthestand99

How do people think Tony feels reading this bs.

Probably very low. And he should. Bottom line is either he goes, or he guts the team for next season. Just lost the guts of 2 hours of my life watching that sh*te from Croke Park tonight and it is much the same, a man with no managerial experience put in charge of a team that is not playing to potential. The FAI either gets rid of Staunton, or sticks with him and he cuts the deadwood from the team. Same applies here.
You say no one knows how much time is put in to running the team - judging by performances against Waterford and BRay at home, as well as the first half, the answer is either (a) not half enough or (b) lots, but in the wrong areas.
SOmeone has to cop it for this season, if the board are going to back their man for next year, then a huge jump in player budget needs to be found as there are a lot of players who need to be cut. If not, go back to part-time - look how close we finished to Shams last season, and then look at the progress of both clubs, one part-time, one full-time.
The insinuation is that, from your previous posts, you appear to have the manager's ear. For the love of God, and the club, bend it a little, or we can dust of the AA Roadwatch book from the past 5 years for directions to Lissywollen, Buckley Park and Station Road

**gilberto_eire** · 18/10/2007, 1:16 AM

Originally Posted by MyTown

Finally, who here is up to speed on TCs contractual situation with the club? Will all those who want him out be prepared to pay up his contract, seeing the results of the poll to date suggest its in the clubs best interests? He has a family and entitlements under contract law, so maybe those who are voting him out, will produce their chequebooks?

well thats part and parcel of the game as we all know, sure do ya think dimitri,armstrong and mensah walked for free??...... TC's contract wouldnt dwarf them all by any means!!

**WoodquayBoy** · 18/10/2007, 9:26 AM

My last contribution on this, and apologies if I have polarised the suppotters.
I haven't called for Cousins head, I called for a poll to see what people thought.
If I was to call for his head, it certainly wouldn't be with 4 games left.
And as for beating his objectives, we can't - he wanted an extended cup run, so unless he meant a 140 mile trip to Harps and 150 to Derry, he hasn't got it.
As for tomorrow night, in the words of the great PD, c'mon United

**GuisaSaigon** · 18/10/2007, 9:31 AM

Originally Posted by baileban

Disagree totally - to compare Staunton and Cousins is rubbish - one got the top job in Irish football with no managerial experience and one started off at the bottom rung( effectively where we are if you exclude Junior coccer) with no managerial experience.

Where do you expect Cousins to start?? He starts at the bottom and Staunton starts at the top - completely different!

For all we know Cousins could be Irish manager in 15 years time - unlikely but could happen.

He is learning his trade and can only get better imo. Staunton is driving the train to Cork and Cousins is an apprentice driver.

I don't know if he will be continuing his trade at GUFC but the one thing I will compare about Cousins and Staunton is this - the booing at Croker is akin to the poll just carried out on this forum.

You could plainly see Staunton was stung and hurt by last nights booing and if Cousins read this and other threads today I'm sure he would be similiarly affected.

I have criticised him myself this season but never called for his head - I think he should be left alone for the last 4 ganes - we may even beat his objectives for the season - low I know but at least he didn't spout bullsh!t and say we'd finish top 4 or something ludicrous.

Good Post Baileban, Stupid thread, should be locked.

**gufct** · 18/10/2007, 10:18 AM

Feel that way too Saigon but unfortunately its too late now as ii shouldnt have been even opened in the first place.

**Conor H** · 18/10/2007, 10:56 AM

Disgaree Saigon.

You can't asked for a thread to be locked mearely because you don't agree with the ethics of the thread in the first place.

**gufct** · 18/10/2007, 10:59 AM

Ethics of the thread !!!!!!!!!!!

**galwayhoop** · 18/10/2007, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by gufct

Feel that way too Saigon but unfortunately its too late now as ii shouldnt have been even opened in the first place.

why not?

he is a big boy. he has got support all season for all quarters; supporters, newspapers (especially newspapers) and on here. it is only a question ffs. no-one is suggesting 'Cousins Out' banners or songs for terryland. it is a question which is being asked by a lot of people anyway, including former players and life long supporters. you can't keep hiding your head in the sand. the question is "should he be retained for NEXT season", not "should he go now". seriously some of ye on here demand blind loyalty or else ye castigate people as 'bad for morale'.

if TC comes on here to gauge his popularity or otherwise then he is in the wrong job. football management demands thick skin and the ability to take critism but still have the conviction to do what you think is right yourself (incidently i think TC has these qualities regardless if we agree with him or not).

i certainly won't stop posting on certain topics for fear that the subject might read or get wind of them. as i say TC is a big boy and works in a profession whereby his duty is to produce results on the pitch not win polls on the internet!!!!