my basic point is that compared to slovakia wales and cyprus, our defensive record is pretty good. sure, the germans and czechs have only conceded four each, but leaving out cyprus, we've only conceded six in total, and the other teams are nearer to sixteen. there are some positives to be drawn from this campaign and for what it's worth i think stan has improved as a manager as the group went along. maybe not massively and maybe not enough, but he's shown enough in defence to indicate that we could bore our way to the world cup (7 1-0 wins and 7 0-0 draws would do for me).
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