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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever View Post
    Well said cavanfan. But think you're wasting your time arguing it here. Just look at the usernames involved in the pro mcgeady conversation on this thread
    I can't believe you mentioned usernames, are you 'avin a ****in laugh Hibs4Ever !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scram View Post
    I can't believe you mentioned usernames, are you 'avin a fcukin laugh Hibs4Ever !!!

    These threads were merged from a seperate "i love mcgeady" "mcgeady was best player last night" thread who's only participants said enough about how the thread was gonna go So you really shouldn't post having a go when you don't know why something was posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Not at all. Keane works as hard as any player we have.
    Bulls**t, Keane has not performed at all in this campaign.He needs a kick up the arse. He was anonymous against the Czechs and Slovakia, missed two sitters yesterday and has no leadership skills. There is no point working hard if there is no end result. The only reason not to drop him is because we have no one else of any quality to replace him but at the very least the captains armband should be taken off him.

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    well said scousedub. keane has no leadership skills. To make a marker Stan should drop him for the next game ( cyprus as we should win) to set a marker down that it is unacceptable to miss a chance (or 2) like that. If it was for Spurs he would have scored it! But Stan has not the Cahunas to drop him.
    Why all the suppport for McGeady on this forum?? He has not done anything special for Ireland in qualifiers, only in meaningless friendly against Denmark!!
    Homer did it ever occur to you to let go of the Candy?

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    Keane didn't work at all. I was in the Lower Canal and watched him in the second half. He just stood there when we had the ball , made no effort to crete space, hardly ever showed for it. His miss was indicitive of his attitude on the night. In fairness to Doyle he ran across the line and was always on the move but it just didn't ahppen for him. However I don't think he's fit at the moment. Long should be on from the start on Wednesday and Richard Dunne should be captain. The back four were solid but I don't think the Germans even got into first gear never mind had to get out of it. Sure, we created a couple of chances, but I always felt the Germans could raise their game if they had to. Keogh did his best but he's not a natural wide man and really we need two natural wingers.

    The Germans had us well sussed. Every time Given got the ball they pushed up on our back four forcing him to go long and inevitably it had to go to Kilbane who is probably stronger in the air than Doyle or Keane. We badly need a target man.
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    Ahhhhhhhhhh poor Kevin Doyle he is a decent lad but Robbie is a ****.
    Last edited by gustavo; 15/10/2007 at 9:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scousedub View Post
    He was anonymous against the Czechs and Slovakia
    He was not. Keane worked his arse off in both games. Certainly against Slovakia anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by scousedub
    There is no point working hard if there is no end result.
    So he's purposely playing badly? As long as Keane puts in 100% effort that's all we can ask. I can't stand the abuse the guy gets.

    There's probably 2 things a player deserves criticism for (criticism isn't the right word but I haven't got a great vocabulary). Being lazy and refusing to follow instructions. To actually get angry at a player for missing a goalscoring chance is absolutely insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sligobhoy67 View Post
    well he certainly made amends in this game was the best player on the park by far for the last ten minutes
    what are you on?

    Im a big McGeady fan but he did nothing of note for the 10 minutes apart from one cross.
    I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?

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    Robbie Keane can only play well with a big striker upfront next to him... either Berbartov or Quinn, he needs the flick-ons as service. If he doesnt have he tends to drop back to try and pick up the ball.

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    McGeady had a good enough 10 minutes, beat 2 players before hitting a peach of a cross - nearly inch perfect for a winning goal.
    Probably would have needed to perfect some garryowen type cross to get up over Mertesakker and quickly down to Keane.

    How's that Cillian Sheridan getting along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Not at all. Keane works as hard as any player we have.
    I wouldn't question his work rate or commitment at all but he's ineffectual.

    We needed him to score that winner v czechs at home which was a great chance to bounce back after cyprus, or bury that shot last night. Both were very scoreable opportunities for premiership striker, not half chances. This is what he's on the team to do and he ain't doing it.

    Some healthy competition for that position wouldn't hurt him.
    Gimme dat

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    Quote Originally Posted by DubJohn View Post
    Some healthy competition for that position wouldn't hurt him.
    I don't see how it would change things. Competition might make you work harder but it wouldn't have helped him score a goal last night. Again if he wasn't giving 100% and I could understand what competition would do to change him. His problems with Ireland are not by choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie View Post
    cast your mind back to the San Marino game!
    a game we dominated from start to finish? they had one chance and scored and it was about the only time they left their half. we didnt play anyway well but by far deserved to win, saying anything else is sensationalist rubbish

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    Thought Reid had a decent game, his passing was excellent which makes the fact that he's clearly overweight even more dissapointing. Imagine the type of player we would have if he was fitter.

    Let down yet again by Robbie Keane, another non-performance for Ireland capped by a spectacular miss. Running around loads but doing very little.

    When a player is being left on the pitch when they are consistently playing poorly questions must be asked. When is the last time Keane was substituted in a competitive international? No player should be immune from the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo View Post
    Robbie Keane can only play well with a big striker upfront next to him... either Berbartov or Quinn, he needs the flick-ons as service. If he doesnt have he tends to drop back to try and pick up the ball.
    Thats where Stan has to come in and stop him doing this. Keane is a stupid footballer who needs clear instruction, otherwise you get what Ireland have had for the past 4 years, a headless chicken playing all over the place doing nothing effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavan_fan View Post
    Mostly agree.

    Although Reid was good I think the only reason he seemed so earth shattering is that we have had a lack of a good midfielder for so long. IF he can keep fit for the next 18 months he could be vital alongside his namesake.

    I'd swap Robbie and Doyle's scores. Doyle did nothing and what he did was trash. Robbie tried all night as always.

    One thought about this campaign, has there been a single game when we got a better result than we deserved?
    Oh well fair played to robbie for trying. He's captain of his country for ch***s sake!! He should have been substituted long before anyone else - his form for ireland is abysmal. Does anyone think doyle would have tried that pussy lob if he'd the whole half to himself?? No, he would have buried it

    And ireland didn't deserve to beat Wales at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionelhutz View Post
    Oh well fair played to robbie for trying. He's captain of his country for ch***s sake!! He should have been substituted long before anyone else - his form for ireland is abysmal. Does anyone think doyle would have tried that pussy lob if he'd the whole half to himself?? No, he would have buried it
    Do you think Keane should drop out of the team himself? What are you annoyed at him for? He didn't purposely miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligobhoy67 View Post
    thats ****e talk - beat players, quality crosses and got in amongest them - that is the very essence of "end result" - he did everything bar score a goal - which he nearly di also.

    I take your point about his other two games - but not this one
    McGeady should have buried that chance that fell to him - at the very least test the keeper. But he completely mi**** it, twas going twenty yards wide before it hit an irish player
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo View Post
    I think it's the worse possible outcome tonight. We've got a "creditable" draw with Germany. That is what Stan and Oscar Wilde at the FAI will say. This will be used as some sort of validation that the "team is growing", "the learning process is working" etc etc. Stan will lead us to failure in 2010 qualifiying...

    The fact of the matter is this group was fairly easy, a decent level of organisation would have seen us get through. We've been very sloppy in every match bar the Germany ones. Even then tonight the Germans were without key players, esp when Schwienstiger went off. But Stan just wanted the draw.
    I agree with most of the above. The Germans came here without 5 certain starters and their most creative player got injured after 20 mins. They cruised through the game happy to take the point for qualification. I doubt they'd be too down if they lost either with two games to gain one point.

    So take this draw for what it really is - a missed opportunity. Just like this whole campaign

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Do you think Keane should drop out of the team himself? What are you annoyed at him for? He didn't purposely miss.
    He's been playing shockingly for ireland for the past 10 to 15 games and there hasn't even been a consideration to drop him. If any other striker went through the form he has, there's no doubt he'd be dropped and rightly so.

    The fact that he's captain seems to make staunton think he can't even substitute him. He shouldn't be in the team considering he seems to be scared sh**less in front of goal for ireland

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