Ireland vs Germany - Who doesn't care?

**jebus** · 13/10/2007, 7:10 PM

I notice there is a few of us on the board at the moment and was wondering if any of you care very very little about the Irish team and international football in general? I always feel a little empty on days like this, there's no EL to speak of, well nothing of any worth anyway (apologies to Kildare and Wexford), there's no Serie A, Premiership or La Liga to occupy my thoughts, and then there were people milling around Dublin excited about the match today and I just felt nothing. The Irish team, and supporting them just leaves me feeling cold to be honest about it, I still don't understand how anyone supports international football to be honest, not just Ireland, I've always looked at it as something for kids, non-football fans and drunken nights out.

All said and done I might go watch a bit of it on the TV and flick back and forth between that and the rugby, but I really couldn't care less if Ireland win or lose 4-0

**mypost** · 13/10/2007, 7:50 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

I really couldn't care less if Ireland win or lose 4-0

I suggest you hand in your passport in that case.

Whether you realise it or not, even those with no interest in football support Ireland. Why? Check the nationality. It's a part of you, regardless of who's playing or in charge. Therefore, as an Irish person, you must support Ireland. That's just the way it is.

**jebus** · 13/10/2007, 8:05 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

I suggest you hand in your passport in that case.

Whether you realise it or not, even those with no interest in football support Ireland. Why? Check the nationality. It's a part of you, regardless of who's playing or in charge. Therefore, as an Irish person, you must support Ireland. That's just the way it is.

Funny how to qualify to be Irish you must support a half English team playing an English game

I suppose if you don't follow the Irish camogie team, or the Special Olympic golfers that makes you less Irish too?

**Sheridan** · 13/10/2007, 8:06 PM

I hear you, bro. Except I'm not indifferent to them, I actively hope they get trounced in each and every game. I didn't even realise RepublicOfIreland had played Slovakia recently until about two days later. This has caused a corresponding loss of interest in international football as to follow it properly I'd have to acknowledge RepublicOfIreland's legitimacy. However, I can still watch the major tournaments as long as they're not involved.

I do like to see the former eL players perform well.

**red bellied** · 13/10/2007, 8:48 PM

Always was a big international supporter when I was younger, queuing in the middle of the night and the like for tickets.

Was actually over in Slovakia for the Euro game, didnt really care when the other crowd scored in the last minute. The reason is probably due that they are s hite and they might as well be governed by the English FA.

**Closed Account 2** · 13/10/2007, 8:54 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

...there's no EL to speak of, well nothing of any worth anyway (apologies to Kildare and Wexford), there's no Serie A, Premiership or La Liga to occupy my thoughts...

Well there were 6 international matches on TV today (Wales - Cyprus, England - Estonia, Faeroes - France, Ireland - Germany, Scotland - Ukraine, Argentina - Chile)... That's a lot of decent players you could have watched.

I guess maybe Argentina's kit isn't as nice as Barcelona's, so that would have put you off perhaps ?

**jebus** · 13/10/2007, 9:25 PM

Nope just the passionless international game itself

**mypost** · 13/10/2007, 9:34 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Funny how to qualify to be Irish you must support a half English team playing

Last time I looked, Ireland played Germany tonight.

It's been a while since England played Germany.

I suppose if you don't follow the Irish camogie team, that makes you less Irish too?

Show me the Irish Camogie team please??

Unlike another sport played in Croke Park, football is an important worldwide game that means something to people.

**DaveyCakes** · 13/10/2007, 11:05 PM

I'm not too bothered about the Ireland team. Haven't been for a few years.

**eamo1** · 13/10/2007, 11:49 PM

a friend convinced me a few years ago of the futility of supporting international matches/teams.also,after reading different fanzines of clubs i support and meeting fellow galway utd fans i learned just how more relatively meaningfull the club is then the national team.i'd still love ireland to do well but couldnt care less if they dont.however it feels like my heart is ripped out anytime galway utd lose(alot this season so

).

**CollegeTillIDie** · 14/10/2007, 9:31 AM

Your attitude to your clubs is commendable. However compare that to you attitude to your country... it's hypocritical. Unless of course you would walk away from your club if they lost a few games in a row, or got relegated. I take it the majority of you would not do that. That's because being fickle is not really something a real fan does. I have been to games in Belfield when there were only 250 standing places left and others when there were less than 100 when we were at the wrong end of Division 1. On one of those days I saw UCD prepare for a Cup game by beating EMFA. The following Thursday we knocked 3-in-a-row cup holders Shamrock Rovers out of the competition. There were a lot more people at our Cup Quarter Final against Longford than at the League game against EMFA. And you guessed it we lost the Cup game. Anyway my point is this...

So why abandon Ireland now? That argument about the team being half English is no longer accurate. Finnan has a Brit accent but he was born in Limerick. SO where are all the other '' English'' players? Of the 11 who started last night Shay Given, Steve Finnan, Richard Dunne, Joey O'Brien, Stephen Kelly, Alan Keogh, Andy Reid, Robbie Kean, Kevin Doyle (all Irish born)
Leaving Lee Carsley and Kevin Kilbane and nobody could criticise their effort on behalf of the Irish team. They might not be the most talented or skillful midfield players in the World but they give their all for the Irish jersey.

Unlike certain Cork born people we could mention ....

I am amazed, in a good way, at how many fans are still going to watch Shelbourne. Given the track record of band waggoning that Irish supporters display in all sports not just soccer, I would have thought they would have haemorrhaged a lot more support.

Stephen Cluxton the Dublin GAH goalkeeper raised that point as to all the sunshine supporters Dublin GAA has. Look at the rugby team AIL games have poor attendances some of the Magner's League attendances are not too hectic but Heineken League and International and the attendances are huge! Then we have the number of Ole Ole's as opposed to those who attend International games.

I gave up regular attendance at internationals when Lansdowne Road had it's capacity reduced in 1990 for competitive international games. Ireland weren't sh1te quite the opposite they had, just finished in the top 8 nations at Italia 90. I quit them when they were ahead because it was difficult to get tickets and I couldn't at the time afford to block book. I could I suppose block book tickets, now but midweek games don't suit me on the whole. I have been to a few away games and the odd home game when I have either, got tickets for friendlies when the capcity was not reduced; won tickets in a raffle; been asked to work at one or on one occasion been paid for doing an ad for the ELOI in match tickets. I may return when the new Lansdowne Road capacity is 50,000 seats for soccer. Especially if we remain sh1t and all then bandwaggoners have stopped going !

Sheridan... your team folded and your heart just isn't in the game anymore. Understandable on one level the disappointment . On another , there are teams you can go and see as a neutral. If you come to UCD you can even wear your old club colours and blend in.

Either way I am sure you would be welcome to go and watch any of the Dublin clubs.
Come back to the game , you'll regret it if you don't. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but soon and for the rest of your life.... play it again SAM

**jebus** · 14/10/2007, 9:42 AM

I haven't been interested in Ireland since I was 13, it has nothing to do with the current regime

**bennocelt** · 14/10/2007, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

as an Irish person, you must support Ireland. That's just the way it is.

thats rubbish, come off it
everybody is entitled to support whoever they want

remember all the morons who were supporting M Smith and the like
actually i only support sports stars and teams that i feel are determined, honest, good pros, and play well.................irrespective of where thay are from.....................and thats why i actually wouldnt mind England winning the rugby world cup......(over our team)

**Dodge** · 14/10/2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

and thats why i actually wouldnt mind England winning the rugby world cup......(over our team)

Goes somewhat against some of the political statement you've made here...

**pete** · 14/10/2007, 1:28 PM

Even though I was at Croke Park yesterday I was largely indifferent & sort of wanted Germany to score but felt ashamed to think that way. Don't know if I will go to Cyprus game but I would watch on TV if that is a bit strange.

Only started going to Ireland games on the basis of the eL tickets but trying to remember the last game I enjoyed but this lack of enthusiasm has been growing for a few years now...

**bennocelt** · 14/10/2007, 4:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Goes somewhat against some of the political statement you've made here...

ha

yeah but isnt sport meant to be different?

anyway the english rugby team put their heads down and got on with it, unlike most of the other teams, and jeez that french team were a joke anyway