6 clubs attack FAI policy?

**don ramo** · 10/10/2007, 2:28 PM

i can understand going ful time, that should be the marker that should be set for the premier league, but not havin a cap on wages is stupid to say the least you have to have it, we cant have any more shelbournes,
i heard that its only club revenue, (and money invested wont be taken into account for the wages,) dont agree with this at all, all money that goes into the clubs accounts, 65% should be put to wages, this should include all donations sposorship, gate money, bar and so on,

**pete** · 10/10/2007, 2:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

kdjac scanned the article. Takes a slightly different tact than the 11-a-side article

http://homepage.eircom.net/~kdja4/DSC00456.JPG

I agree that the eleven-a-side slant very selective.

I think clubs have been talking behind the scenes recently so this where the article has come from. Still not sure why the clubs raising the salary cap issue as the definition of revenue will allow "donations" to clubs. I think the FAI just trying to prevent clubs have having large debt hanging around their necks & doing another Shels.

We changed out crest years ago. Have The Star not realised this yet?

**Pablo** · 10/10/2007, 2:48 PM

Breakaway league anyone? SPL Style?

**Tir Oilean** · 10/10/2007, 2:54 PM

Originally Posted by pete

We changed out crest years ago. Have The Star not realised this yet?

So did we!

**Billy Lord** · 10/10/2007, 3:21 PM

Originally Posted by sonofstan

Weren't you asked then?

No one asks us, we don't care.

**micls** · 10/10/2007, 3:27 PM

Not surprised we're part of it as Tynan has repeatedly said he doesnt agree with the wage cap, on the basis that one bad year income wise(e.g. this year for us) could keep you down for a few years after cos you cant improve the squad as much as you want even if you have investors.

Not sure if I agree or disagree tbh. See the advantages and disadvantages. While for a few seasons individual clubs may not be able to progress as much as they want(Europe etc), at the same time as a league we need to sort ourselves financially. The antics of a lot of clubs(including us last season) only adds fire to the claims of how rubbish our league is and how we're all incompetant

**KoemansCC** · 10/10/2007, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by sduffy

What the f**k have Galway United and honest Nick got to be complaining about?

They're complaining about the lack of direction and financial support shown by the FAI towards the LOI and all clubs....

Thay should be kissing JD feet after the way they've been looked after.

....and I give up

**gspain** · 10/10/2007, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by sduffy

What the f**k have Galway United and honest Nick got to be complaining about?

Thay should be kissing JD feet after the way they've been looked after.

I hear they're considering changing the playoff rules now for this season. It's 2nd v 4th.

**KoemansCC** · 10/10/2007, 4:42 PM

Could work

**Tis-smeee** · 10/10/2007, 4:52 PM

Or they could all just pay "expenses" like Wexford Youths and not have to worry about the wage cap

**pineapple stu** · 10/10/2007, 6:34 PM

This is interesting - nine months ago, the clubs were happy to sell out to the FAI, and now the biggest want out?

Is Delaney's position coming under pressure that people can undermine him like this?

Few shocks about the clubs who are against the wage cap - Drogs, Pat's (E1m losses each), Galway (all their losses for this year being underwritten, as I understand), Bohs (have money to burn if the ground deal goes through and, in fairness, they should be allowed spend it if they have it) and Cork (seems Arkaga are pulling the strings already?), although Derry is surprising.

But disappointing (although not really surprising) to see they're missing the issues altogether. The league needs stability - history has shown that lost of clubs are mini Shelbournes, and it's not the one off exception that it's being made out to be. Also, interesting to see hugely aspirational plans for 10000+ capacity grounds being trotted out as the way the league is going well before they even come close to getting off the ground.

**sullanefc** · 10/10/2007, 9:48 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

This is interesting - nine months ago, the clubs were happy to sell out to the FAI, and now the biggest want out?

Is Delaney's position coming under pressure that people can undermine him like this?

Few shocks about the clubs who are against the wage cap - Drogs, Pat's (E1m losses each), Galway (all their losses for this year being underwritten, as I understand), Bohs (have money to burn if the ground deal goes through and, in fairness, they should be allowed spend it if they have it) and Cork (seems Arkaga are pulling the strings already?), although Derry is surprising.

But disappointing (although not really surprising) to see they're missing the issues altogether. The league needs stability - history has shown that lost of clubs are mini Shelbournes, and it's not the one off exception that it's being made out to be. Also, interesting to see hugely aspirational plans for 10000+ capacity grounds being trotted out as the way the league is going well before they even come close to getting off the ground.

Small club, small ambition

**kdjaC** · 10/10/2007, 9:55 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

This is interesting - nine months ago, the clubs were happy to sell out to the FAI, and now the biggest want out?

Is Delaney's position coming under pressure that people can undermine him like this?

Cork and Pats had different owners when the FAI agreement was struck.

kdjac

**Gaillimh Al** · 10/10/2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Galway (all their losses for this year being underwritten, as I understand)

You understand correctly, but the point was IF they made losses they would be underwritten. I understand the club will be announcing a small profit on the year once relegation is avoided.

**Lim till i die** · 10/10/2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Gaillimh Al

You understand correctly, but the point was IF they made losses they would be underwritten. I understand the club will be announcing a small profit on the year once relegation is avoided.

Just for my curiosity why does relegation matter??

Is the difference between, say 10th and 12th, really the difference between a profit and a loss??

**jebus** · 10/10/2007, 10:10 PM

As has been said, I'm surprised at some of the clubs involved, especially Galway United, who have gained by far and away the most through the FAI's nonsense and really should keep their mouth's shut when it comes to subjects like this for this year at least. Still if it gets the FAI to start treating EL clubs even slightly better then it's probably a good thing.