Free View Box/ Magic Box

**Ceirtlis** · 07/10/2007, 4:02 PM

Hello everyone just wondering can anyone help me here. I just want to know does the uk free view boxes work in Dublin. I was also wondering what people know about magic boxes ( the things that unblock all the sateillite channels for free), is there a chance that these things could stop working if the sateillite companies finds better ways of blocking the channels. I know loads of people that have them but the prices im hearing for them is about �200-�250 and im not sure whether to buy one if there is a risk that it could be useless in a few months.

**Magicme** · 08/10/2007, 8:18 AM

Ask my boyfriend.

**Macy** · 08/10/2007, 8:27 AM

Freeview may or may not work. You'd want to be getting UK Terrestrial TV pretty damn good to get the Freeview muxes in Dublin. If you are, it also depends on which transmitter you are getting. Relay's don't carry Freeview yet - will change at digital changeover, and the power generally should go up. So bottom line is you may be able to get it, but it's unlikely in Dublin.

No idea on your illegal satellite reciever (the mods should watch further discussion of it on here), but encyrption is always getting better to stop people ripping off subscription channels.

**Ceirtlis** · 08/10/2007, 1:18 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

Freeview may or may not work. You'd want to be getting UK Terrestrial TV pretty damn good to get the Freeview muxes in Dublin. If you are, it also depends on which transmitter you are getting. Relay's don't carry Freeview yet - will change at digital changeover, and the power generally should go up. So bottom line is you may be able to get it, but it's unlikely in Dublin.

No idea on your illegal satellite reciever (the mods should watch further discussion of it on here), but encyrption is always getting better to stop people ripping off subscription channels.

Thanks. Your right, probably not the best place to discuss the magic box thing as they are illegal.

**S�C** · 08/10/2007, 1:22 PM

Think anyone in Dublin/Dundalk region can get the Irish free view trail at the momement. Only the Irish channels though.

The UK ones you can get in certain places. I knew people who were getting it in Kiliney but people in Blackrock couldnt so its very hit and miss

**Macy** · 08/10/2007, 2:48 PM

Originally Posted by S�C

Think anyone in Dublin/Dundalk region can get the Irish free view trail at the momement. Only the Irish channels though.

I think it's a different standard to the UK, which if my memory is correct, a big

to the Government.

Originally Posted by S�C

The UK ones you can get in certain places. I knew people who were getting it in Kiliney but people in Blackrock couldnt so its very hit and miss

We're so on the fringes that it can come down to the sensitivity of the different makes of recievers, but also there's a number of transmitters and relays on the west coast of Wales so different area's could be recieving from different places.

**S�C** · 09/10/2007, 2:23 AM

Originally Posted by Macy

I think it's a different standard to the UK, which if my memory is correct, a big

to the Government.

We're so on the fringes that it can come down to the sensitivity of the different makes of recievers, but also there's a number of transmitters and relays on the west coast of Wales so different area's could be recieving from different places.

I'm no expert in this but from what I can make out I thought it was the same for the trial (mpeg2 or the likes) but plan to use mpeg4 (which can apparently carry more data/channels) when the hardware becomes more available or some such story?

There are 1000 officially in the trial but its not encoded AFAIK

**onceahoop** · 09/10/2007, 6:29 AM

Apparently the satellite boxes will only work if your a current subscriber to NTL. Some of them you have to keep changing codes and others do it automatically. Pesonally I think it's only a matter of time before they manage to block them. I've got Sky anyway.

**Dodge** · 09/10/2007, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by baileban

NTL will never be able to block the codes unless all of their customers unsubscribe

Guy who sold you it tell you that did he?

**Dodge** · 09/10/2007, 11:01 AM

Listen smart arse, within 2 years there won't be an analog NTL signal and it will be digital only. Then everyone with these boxes will either have to subsrice to NTL's digital packages, or go to Sky.

Do you honestly think NTL (or UPC as it is now) is basing a business decision on "sure we'll get some money off those leeching of our network"

If you're going to get thick when your ignorence is shown up, you might as well not post...

**OneRedArmy** · 09/10/2007, 12:49 PM

Highly amusing that Baileban was a champion of consumer rights and moral outrage re the ticketing for the Galway vs Sunderland match earlier in the summer...

**paul_oshea** · 09/10/2007, 12:50 PM

Apparently the satellite boxes will only work if your a current subscriber to NTL. Some of them you have to keep changing codes and others do it automatically. Pesonally I think it's only a matter of time before they manage to block them. I've got Sky anyway.

I know someone who has them in dublin and london. great things, not called magic boxes though.

If you're going to get thick when your ignorence is shown up, you might as well not post...

Dodge, re-read that post it is sorta ironic

**Sligo Hornet** · 09/10/2007, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by baileban

Think about it smart-arse!
NTL have thousands of customers - if they keep knocking out the channels so the pirate-box holders lose their channels then they are going to lose more and more customers - it doesn't make sense for them to keep trying to annoy the pirate-box holders at the expense of losing their existing customers.
That is all they do to the likes of me - they keep changing the signal - but the box I have automatically finds the channels again.

How long did you study my post for before you found what you thought was a hole in it?? A flimsy hole at that!!
If you have nothing constructive to add to what was a legitimate question from one of your fellow posters then don't bother at all.

You might not be a "smart-arse", but you are definitely a "Thief" in the eyes of the law!!

**Dodge** · 09/10/2007, 1:09 PM

Originally Posted by baileban

It was your own ignorance that was shown up when you decided to be sarcastic to me instead of answering Ceirtlis' question. Your priority was to challenge me instead of help Ceirtlis - grow up!!

Because the other side is illegal. Idiot.

I wasn't judging you on buying one, and you don't even know if I have one, but they are not the greatest things ever made, and they are most certainly illegal.

**paul_oshea** · 09/10/2007, 1:11 PM

but they are not the greatest things ever made

Not the greatest for sure, Dodge, but when you are looking for a stream for a PPV match/fight online for hours, its great when ye can just pop round to a mates gaffe and watch it for free!!!!

**Sligo Hornet** · 09/10/2007, 1:18 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Not the greatest for sure, Dodge, but when you are looking for a stream for a PPV match/fight online for hours, its great when ye can just pop round to a mates gaffe and watch it for free!!!!

With your appparent lack of respect for all things legal, I am sure you would never have any problem seeing whatever you wish, whenever you needed to!

**Dodge** · 09/10/2007, 1:21 PM

I agree. And don't get me wrong, at best my own morals are questionable (at worst nonexistant), its just that you can't post it about it here

**paul_oshea** · 09/10/2007, 1:30 PM

Ya fair point.

Hornet who have you been talking too?!

**Sligo Hornet** · 09/10/2007, 1:50 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Ya fair point.

Hornet who have you been talking too?!

Just a guess Paul!

**Mark Breen** · 09/10/2007, 2:28 PM

Must say, i think there great, I have 2 at home @ �150 each, have had them for 6 months now and they update themself's, i've lost about 7 channels from when i first got them, but there **** channels i wouldn't watch anyway...however if i reload all the channels they'd come back, but then all my channels would be messed up again and i'd have to re-position them in the order i like them, so untill a channel i like goes i can live without the 7......

In relation to who ever said NTL will go completly digital in the next two year,

Your probably right, but �300 / 24(months) = �12.50 a month and i get all the setanta channels, and the Box office channels which are extra's....so even if i have to get digital in a few years so be it, i'll have more than got my monys worth...