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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank View Post
    What a joke of a decision. If any club was to be fined it should have been ourselves.
    Why? You went to the game with both your kits. It was Cork who refused to budge
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    Quote Originally Posted by harpskid View Post
    Keely has a piece in The Sun today about the Dundalk goalkeeper last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Why? You went to the game with both your kits. It was Cork who refused to budge
    Both of their kits, neither of which was sufficiently different from the home team's

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGaynor View Post
    Both of their kits, neither of which was sufficiently different from the home team's
    .............so Cork change their kit.

    They didn't, and got fined.

    Am I missing something?

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    No you're not, under the rules Bray are in the right. However the rules are stupid. Were Derry fined last season when Sligo came to the Brandywell and their away of white shirts and red shorts was deemed to clash with the Derry colours and Sligo wore the black Derry away?

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    It the problem not partially caused by the fact that the decision is made on the day by the ref. Should these issues not be decided at the start of the season and let the FAI decide which kits clash and let the clubs register what they plan to wear well in advance of the game?

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    Clubs do register their home & away colours
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    Quote Originally Posted by centre mid View Post
    Clubs do register their home & away colours
    And is there a register of what kits clash? Is it written down anywhere whether Bohs can wear their away kit when Waterford are wearing their home kit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Student View Post
    And is there a register of what kits clash? Is it written down anywhere whether Bohs can wear their away kit when Waterford are wearing their home kit?
    Not sure but its not a secret or anything, common-sense should have dictated but obvioulsy not here. Cork refusing to change, allegedly, is childish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centre mid View Post
    Not sure but its not a secret or anything, common-sense should have dictated but obvioulsy not here. Cork refusing to change, allegedly, is childish.
    Common sense should have dictated that Bray had an away kit that didn't clash with the home kits of the only two sides they'd need to wear it against

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    Quote Originally Posted by harps1954 View Post
    It's in the rulebook that if the visiting club's two registered colours clash with the home side, then the home side must change. Doesn't mention a fine, but remember the Participation Agreement that every club signed prior to the start of the season states that rule breaks will be dealt with by way of fines, point deducations, etc.

    So, basically, if Cork broke the rules they should have known a fine was on the way. If they didn't know this was the rule (re the clash of shirts), well that's something someone at the club will have to answer.
    Based upon the assumption that those are the rules, Cork City have gotten off lightly here. Had they worn their away kit there was no problem. What reason other than stubborness could they have for refusing to change? The away kit had all their sponsors and logos on it. Bray arrived in good faith with both sets of approved kit. The ensuing fiasco can't have endeared eL football to their current sponsors and any which they might pursue in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by centre mid View Post
    Not sure but its not a secret or anything,
    Seemingly it is. Whether Bohs away clashes with Waterford home depends largely on who you talk to. It's my opinion that such things should be decided long before the day of a match.

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    Can we get proof that this rule is actually in the rulebook?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGaynor View Post
    Common sense should have dictated that Bray had an away kit that didn't clash with the home kits of the only two sides they'd need to wear it against
    Hold on, Bray or any other club are entitled to have whatever colours they want as a 2nd gear whether or not it clashes or not, Cork (or any club for that matter) have a change gear aswell, Bray shouldnt have had to wear that ridiculous gear with gaffer tap over the sponsor logo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffer View Post
    Based upon the assumption that those are the rules, Cork City have gotten off lightly here. Had they worn their away kit there was no problem. What reason other than stubborness could they have for refusing to change? The away kit had all their sponsors and logos on it. Bray arrived in good faith with both sets of approved kit. The ensuing fiasco can't have endeared eL football to their current sponsors and any which they might pursue in the future.
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    But the point is the away shouldn't have been approved as it didn't solve the clashing problems

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    Quote Originally Posted by centre mid View Post
    Hold on, Bray or any other club are entitled to have whatever colours they want as a 2nd gear whether or not it clashes or not, Cork (or any club for that matter) have a change gear aswell, Bray shouldnt have had to wear that ridiculous gear with gaffer tap over the sponsor logo.
    No they're not entitled to wear whatever colours they want as an away, they're change colours, designed to avert a clash with the home side. Bray's away kit clearly doesn't do this, as Rovers had to wear black at home to Bray earlier in the year as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harps1954 View Post
    It's actually a different rule for the FAI Cup believe it or not. The away team can wear their first choice kit and if it clashes, it is the home team which must change to their second choice kit.
    That's because the home team has the advantage of playing at home. It's the same in Europe too (or at least was a few years ago).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGaynor View Post
    No they're not entitled to wear whatever colours they want as an away, they're change colours, designed to avert a clash with the home side. Bray's away kit clearly doesn't do this, as Rovers had to wear black at home to Bray earlier in the year as well.
    Clubs can still pick their own colours, even if they are likely to be the same as another clubs - thats why every club has a change of strip aswell. i.e. Bray brought home and away strip to the cross, ref wasnt happy to let the clash go ahead, Cork shoulf wear their change - happens all the time in Junior football - the owness is on the home team to change
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    Quote Originally Posted by centre mid View Post
    Clubs can still pick their own colours, even if they are likely to be the same as another clubs - thats why every club has a change of strip aswell. i.e. Bray brought home and away strip to the cross, ref wasnt happy to let the clash go ahead, Cork shoulf wear their change - happens all the time in Junior football - the owness is on the home team to change

    But what if every club was like Bray and their away kit was too similar to the home? If City still had their 2005 away of white jerseys and green shorts what would have happened at Turner's Cross that night? The point is, Bray should not be allowed to have an away kit that fails to avoid the colour clash created by the similarity of the two homes

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    I tend to agree with Tommy here. Whatever about what happened in Cork, surely there must be something done at the start of the season to ensure a clubs away colours are sufficiently different to their home colours.
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