And Then There Were Three - The First Division

**Sniffer** · 05/10/2007, 3:24 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_T

As I said in another thread, this comparing of educated guesstimates of how your club's wage bill compares to another clubs is bull$hitology of the highest order.

Not knocking Harps fiscal exercises in any way. They did the right thing last season and it was a big lump to swallow. Yet they were able to bring Gethins back along with the quality of Holmes, Parkhouse, Shields, McLaughlin,O'Loughlin and Divin.

**jebus** · 05/10/2007, 3:45 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_T

Is the �5k per week figure for Limerick gross or net or inclusive of manager and backroom?

It was being banded about a few weeks ago as our playing budget, hence why so many of us are unhappy with the efforts of the team as of late

**Sam_Heggy** · 05/10/2007, 7:18 PM

Originally Posted by Sniffer

Not knocking Harps fiscal exercises in any way. They did the right thing last season and it was a big lump to swallow. Yet they were able to bring Gethins back along with the quality of Holmes, Parkhouse, Shields, McLaughlin,O'Loughlin and Divin.

Gethins was only away on loan, never sold so no need to bring him back.

Holmes was released by Derry and there was no fee involved.

The supporters club paid for O'Loughlin.

Im not sure on McLaughlin, I think his contract was up at 'stute and no fee was involved there (Mr.T should know this one)

We did pay fee's for Divin, Parky and Sheilds AFAIK but they were not substansial.

**depor** · 05/10/2007, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Like what? The supporters club paid the fee for John O'Loughlin, a local business man paid for another player and the rest were on free. Why would a club in debt spend loads of money on players?

How is it that so many people outside of Harps know what our finances are?

harps have speent a lot of money, according to harps fans they are paying gethins 1500 a week. this year our usual small budget was cut further, and we'd pay our whole sqaud with that amount of money. so they have spent.

**depor** · 05/10/2007, 10:59 PM

[/QUOTE] What was Shamrock rovers and Galways budjets last season?
Im asking because the fore-mentioned clubs all had promotion in mind when setting their budjets (with the exception of Shels) at the start of the season.

I do find it hard to believe that Cobhs weekly budjet is just €2500. They pay travel, players (even pay per play at 16 players used per week is less than 150 per week expecting every1 else to recieve nothing.), management, advertising, grounds keepers, etc.
A hell of alot of charity work going on in Cobh I doubt.[/QUOTE]

our budget is very low, in fact its a third of lasts years. to be honest i think its even less than 2500, the advertising is done for free or very cheaply, the players are being payed according to goals, clean sheets and i think assists. the groundsmen are FAS workers so they cost the cclub nothing or very little.
we had to cut the budget as it was getting out of hand, which has obvious consequences.

i dont really get the last line of your post, like any club, the budget comes from gate takings, matchday and programme sponsors, pitchside sign sponsors, main sponsor and clubhouse/bar takings. its buisness, not charity, i dont know what u mean by charity

. well the supporters club has provided a lot of money for the club over the years.

**Sam_Heggy** · 06/10/2007, 1:08 AM

Originally Posted by depor

harps have speent a lot of money, according to harps fans they are paying gethins 1500 a week. this year our usual small budget was cut further, and we'd pay our whole sqaud with that amount of money. so they have spent.

Very generous fans as the board would never pay that kind of money.

Has anyone got proof to back up these allegations? We are not on the defensive, but we do believe people are trying to make out that Harps are trying to buy the league or something

**Sam_Heggy** · 06/10/2007, 1:11 AM

What was Shamrock rovers and Galways budjets last season?
Im asking because the fore-mentioned clubs all had promotion in mind when setting their budjets (with the exception of Shels) at the start of the season.

I do find it hard to believe that Cobhs weekly budjet is just �2500. They pay travel, players (even pay per play at 16 players used per week is less than 150 per week expecting every1 else to recieve nothing.), management, advertising, grounds keepers, etc.
A hell of alot of charity work going on in Cobh I doubt.[/QUOTE]

our budget is very low, in fact its a third of lasts years. to be honest i think its even less than 2500, the advertising is done for free or very cheaply, the players are being payed according to goals, clean sheets and i think assists. the groundsmen are FAS workers so they cost the cclub nothing or very little.
we had to cut the budget as it was getting out of hand, which has obvious consequences.

i dont really get the last line of your post, like any club, the budget comes from gate takings, matchday and programme sponsors, pitchside sign sponsors, main sponsor and clubhouse/bar takings. its buisness, not charity, i dont know what u mean by charity

. well the supporters club has provided a lot of money for the club over the years.[/QUOTE]

Wexfords budget must be on a par with Cobhs then so. No club can travel all over the country, pay players, a manager, physio, trainer, etc, all for only 2500 per week, thats unbelievable, but if true, well done.

**Sniffer** · 06/10/2007, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Gethins was only away on loan, never sold so no need to bring him back.

Holmes was released by Derry and there was no fee involved.

The supporters club paid for O'Loughlin.

Im not sure on McLaughlin, I think his contract was up at 'stute and no fee was involved there (Mr.T should know this one)

We did pay fee's for Divin, Parky and Sheilds AFAIK but they were not substansial.

I know all of this; but you could afford to bring Gethins back onto the payroll; and the players listed all get paid don't they? I am not suggesting that Harps are trying to buy the league. Higgsy has used the budget available to
him wisely. I did also mention that he plucked some decent players from Derry City's reserves/21's.

**Mr_T** · 08/10/2007, 1:18 PM

Originally Posted by depor

according to harps fans they are paying gethins 1500 a week.

LOL

**harps1954** · 08/10/2007, 2:10 PM

Originally Posted by depor

according to harps fans they are paying gethins 1500 a week

I can guarantee that Harps aren't paying Gethins anywhere near half of the figure you quoted.

**harps1954** · 08/10/2007, 2:14 PM

A Cobh fan was telling me in Finn Park the other week that Graham Cummins gets €2,400 per week. Everyone else gets a bag of crisps and a can of coke.

**Sam_Heggy** · 08/10/2007, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by harps1954

A Cobh fan was telling me in Finn Park the other week that Graham Cummins gets �2,400 per week. Everyone else gets a bag of crisps and a can of coke.

Nah most of them get a bag of crisps, the can of coke is for bonuses.

**dundalksarge** · 10/10/2007, 2:39 AM

I have no doubt that Dundalk's wage budget must be one of the largest in the division , there is no point in actually trying to hide that. i just hope come the end of the season we see a return for our money.

**oriel** · 11/10/2007, 8:58 PM

Anyway back to football matters, Dundalk 1 Mons 0 Final Score from tonight.

We move into second and only 1 pt behind Finn Harps, well for tonight anyway........but you never know how the other two will go this w/e - both expected to win, but will they ?

**Sam_Heggy** · 11/10/2007, 9:07 PM

Originally Posted by oriel

Anyway back to football matters, Dundalk 1 Mons 0 Final Score from tonight.

We move into second and only 1 pt behind Finn Harps, well for tonight anyway........but you never know how the other two will go this w/e - both expected to win, but will they ?

Feckin Mons rolling over and lettin ye win

This Div will go all the way imo.

**shep** · 11/10/2007, 9:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

Feckin Mons rolling over and lettin ye win

This Div will go all the way imo.

LOL

Come on Limerick!!!

**marty** · 11/10/2007, 10:25 PM

Dundalk must be credited the seemed out of it not so long ago the win 2nite will no doubt boost the confidence for their expected final push,i reacon harps/cobh will pick up points the wknd and that next wks fixtures will once again tinker with the table it must be the best finish to a season in years for all involved pity its coming to an end.

**The Rebel Ram** · 12/10/2007, 4:00 AM

Originally Posted by marty

Dundalk must be credited the seemed out of it not so long ago the win 2nite will no doubt boost the confidence for their expected final push,i reacon harps/cobh will pick up points the wknd and that next wks fixtures will once again tinker with the table it must be the best finish to a season in years for all involved pity its coming to an end.

Deff best season in years, best season in decades for Rams imo.

Huge game next week for 2nd and 3rd. It was in injury time before Rams beat Dundalk in same fix earlier that started the temporary demise of Dundalk, hopefully the same this time!

I can't see Harps loosing it though, they have put together an unbelieveable run.
The Rams aren't gonna leave em win it till last day of the season though......
Would be great if the 3 teams headed into the final day all with a chance of the title........

**oriel** · 12/10/2007, 7:26 AM

Not counting next weeks game between Cobh V Dundalk, there is no way all 3 teams will win all of their remaining games, one if not two will slip up, this may be one or two draws or even a defeat, so all to play for.