Durban Delay ensures Cup Deferral

**A face** · 27/09/2007, 6:22 PM

Durban Delay ensures Cup Deferral as domestic football takes a backseat !!

**A face** · 28/09/2007, 12:19 AM

Two steps forward, eight steps back

Whats the weather like in Durban in November?

**Sam_Heggy** · 28/09/2007, 8:53 AM

Feckin shocking, putting a holiday ahead of one of the biggest dates in LOI's season

Typical FAI how do they expect to drag this league forward when they dont give a rats arse themselves.
Maxi have you still got that petrol can?

**JC_GUFC** · 28/09/2007, 9:28 AM

It's a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarce

**pete** · 28/09/2007, 10:26 AM

Hmmmm FAI Cup Final or week in Durban. November is summer there & even the waves look good. An easy choice really, its not as if Delaney is paid to attend the FAI Cup final...

**mrtndvn** · 28/09/2007, 2:14 PM

wise up lads. Now that derry's out no one gives a crap

**CollegeTillIDie** · 29/09/2007, 9:51 AM

mrtndvn

Oooooooooooooooooh sour grapes!

**superfrank** · 29/09/2007, 3:25 PM

Do yez no think it might have something to do with the World Cup draw????

Yes, our cup final shouldn't moved around but it's a whole lot easier to move our final then asking Sepp Blatter to move the World Cup draw. At least this way Delaney will be at the cup final as well as the WC draw instead of only going to the WC draw instead.

Why don't yez think about things first before getting on your high horse?

**Poor Student** · 29/09/2007, 3:28 PM

Frank, that is exactly most people's point. It's an irrelevance if one or several blazers aren't at the FAI Cup final compared to the impact of moving it to a further week after the last game of the league season. The added wages part time clubs may pay, the momentum lost in terms of interest in the final due to its isolation from the rest of the season and the possible impact on the quality of the match by two participants who haven't played a competitive game for nearly a month. All that incurred so a few people may attend a game?

**superfrank** · 29/09/2007, 3:34 PM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

All that incurred so a few people may attend a game?

I can see it both ways. We all know the great foot.ie cynics wuld be out in their droves if the FAI uppers weren't there.

I understand the financial side of it but surely the clubs can let the part-time staff off for two of the weeks and get them back a week before the final for preparation and only pay them for the one week. It's not going to affect full-timers, they'll be paid anyway.

As for fitness, well the match is being played at the end of a long season anyway. The players will be knackered as it is. What harm would one weeks more rest do?

I don't agree with moving it but I can see why they did it. Although they shouldn't have lied about it at the time. They should've come out and said it straight away.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 30/09/2007, 8:06 AM

Well I suppose they have to have someone at the WC 2010 group draw to work on sorting out the fixtures. So we can say'' please sir can we use your ground ?'' to our sporting rivals the GAA on certain dates for the home games.

**Stato** · 01/10/2007, 8:26 AM

Will the FAI compensate the two cup finalists for having to pay an extra week's wages? Under footballing rules you can't "let the part-time staff off for two of the weeks and get them back a week before the final for preparation and only pay them for the one week". A contract is a contract and whether you're full time or part time you get paid based on that contract.

On the basis that the cup final clubs only get 30% of the gate after all expenses are paid out it's not exactly a money spinner for them to be there.

**SunderlandBohs** · 01/10/2007, 11:54 AM

It's a disgrace!Just because the World Cup draw falls in or around the time of the FAI Cup doesn't mean the Final should be postponed!Surely not everyone from the FAI has to attended the draw? Imagine if this happened in England? There would be up roar!

**Mr A** · 01/10/2007, 12:29 PM

Would anyone give one monkey's f**k if the FAI bigwigs were not at the final anyway? I think they hugely over-estimate their importance to the event- because I do not for one moment believe that they are actually all that bothered about being there.

**Sonic** · 01/10/2007, 3:43 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

Do yez no think it might have something to do with the World Cup draw????

Yes, our cup final shouldn't moved around but it's a whole lot easier to move our final then asking Sepp Blatter to move the World Cup draw. At least this way Delaney will be at the cup final as well as the WC draw instead of only going to the WC draw instead.

Why don't yez think about things first before getting on your high horse?

So your saying that should any of the part time teams left in d fai cup come the final i.e us and UCD should delay our season a couple in doing so have to pay our players while no money comes in in return. Its a joke. The Fai are just clueless I am so sick of this and anyone making excuses for them are just either in denial or have some connection with the fai.

**A face** · 01/10/2007, 5:41 PM

Originally Posted by Sonic

So your saying that should any of the part time teams left in d fai cup come the final i.e us and UCD should delay our season a couple in doing so have to pay our players while no money comes in in return. Its a joke. The Fai are just clueless I am so sick of this and anyone making excuses for them are just either in denial or have some connection with the fai.

I think its in defensible to be honest. There is NO logic to it.

The FAI bigwigs can still go to Durban, its not like half them were at previous cup finals. The Finals can still go ahead without them with no need for delay. Cups wouldn't be out of pocket.

What if clubs cant pay them? Seriously, with NO income coming in, what happens then. Will the PFAI be coming around early next year enabling other clubs to poach those players (again) because of this crazy situation that the FAI have put clubs in. Will the FAI do anything to prevent any of this stuff happening? Will they heck.

Brand new spanking league, yeah right !!

**superfrank** · 01/10/2007, 7:06 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

I understand the financial side of it but surely the clubs can let the part-time staff off for two of the weeks and get them back a week before the final for preparation and only pay them for the one week. It's not going to affect full-timers, they'll be paid anyway.

Originally Posted by Sonic

So your saying that should any of the part time teams left in d fai cup come the final i.e us and UCD should delay our season a couple in doing so have to pay our players while no money comes in in return.

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**Sonic** · 01/10/2007, 8:30 PM

so whats ..... supposed to mean! On that basis alone maybe the fai will cop up the money that may be lost should either one of us gets to the finally. I doubt that will happen!

**superfrank** · 02/10/2007, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Sonic

so whats ..... supposed to mean!

It means I already covered the point and if you had read my post you would've noticed my suggestion on the financial side.

**Schumi** · 02/10/2007, 11:14 AM

That's unworkable. Would players be expected to train, eat properly, etc. on their two weeks off? If not, they won't be properly prepared for the final. If so, it's grossly unfair to expect them to carry on as players for two weeks without pay. I doubt any player would agree to that, and quite correctly too.