John Delaney

**Superhoops** · 20/09/2007, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

I'm almost certain this is true- Hiddink was approached for the job and said that he would take it, but only after the World Cup. Delaney didn't want to wait until then so appointed Stan.

Where did you get this from?

**Kingdom** · 20/09/2007, 4:05 PM

I read these boards more often than not everyday but only post once in a while. I enjoy reading posts by some of the well informed regulars, such as the Students (there's too many of you) Stuttgart, Tets, Dodge, Neil McD, Eirebhoy and more of the eL crowd.

I also enjoy trying to suss out the angle of some of the 'new' posters such as Barney. And as far as Barney goes, all I can see is that he is full of shyte.
He started a thread about Delaney, looking for a debate. Which is the correct way to go about things if you're of a staunch opinion. Which Barney appears to be.
He was then challenged as to being a member of the FAI or buddy of JD, to which he denied, his attitude changed somewhat, lightened and asked for evidence of delaney's mishaps. It turned out he wasn't looking for debate at all, or if he was, regardless of what was produced he wasn't going to retract his support for JD.
Stu produced enough reasons for Delaney to resign, that any of the journo's who reads this forum could quite easily print coherently tomorrow.
Whereas Barney couldn't be ars*d reading, believing or accepting any of this, and still backs Delaney. Which leads me to think he's either Mr Buckettop himself or he's related, or a colleague. I thought reading your initial post you might be 'Barney' Blood, looking to get fans views on Delaney in a way of trying to present stuff to him at the next council meeting but I'm sure that isn't the case.

Pineapple Stu your posts are a joy to read, keep on keeping on!

**Noelys Guitar** · 20/09/2007, 4:15 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

I read these boards more often than not everyday but only post once in a while. I enjoy reading posts by some of the well informed regulars, such as the Students (there's too many of you) Stuttgart, Tets, Dodge, Neil McD, Eirebhoy and more of the eL crowd.

I also enjoy trying to suss out the angle of some of the 'new' posters such as Barney. And as far as Barney goes, all I can see is that he is full of shyte.
He started a thread about Delaney, looking for a debate. Which is the correct way to go about things if you're of a staunch opinion. Which Barney appears to be.
He was then challenged as to being a member of the FAI or buddy of JD, to which he denied, his attitude changed somewhat, lightened and asked for evidence of delaney's mishaps. It turned out he wasn't looking for debate at all, or if he was, regardless of what was produced he wasn't going to retract his support for JD.
Stu produced enough reasons for Delaney to resign, that any of the journo's who reads this forum could quite easily print coherently tomorrow.
Whereas Barney couldn't be ars*d reading, believing or accepting any of this, and still backs Delaney. Which leads me to think he's either Mr Buckettop himself or he's related, or a colleague. I thought reading your initial post you might be 'Barney' Blood, looking to get fans views on Delaney in a way of trying to present stuff to him at the next council meeting but I'm sure that isn't the case.

Pineapple Stu your posts are a joy to read, keep on keeping on!

Barney has nothing whatsover to do with the FAI. But more importanty he is not associated in anyway with the agency hired by the FAI to improve the image of the EL. I hope that sets you straight Kindgom!

**Kingdom** · 20/09/2007, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar

Barney has nothing whatsover to do with the FAI. But more importanty he is not associated in anyway with the agency hired by the FAI to improve the image of the EL. I hope that sets you straight Kindgom!

It certainly does Noely!

**khoop** · 21/09/2007, 8:33 AM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

Which leads me to think he's either Mr Buckettop himself or he's related, or a colleague

The latter is correct. Perhaps his denials are because he reckons that there is a huge difference between being employed by the FAI and being employed by the League.

**RogerMilla** · 21/09/2007, 10:44 AM

I'll give you an idea of why delaney should resign, the man is a liar. He came on RTE and said that the fans stayed back in the stadium in prague to cheer stan and the team. stauntons name was booed by irish fans when the team sheet was read out at the begining of the game. then the fans were held back by the cops and decided to have a sing song and to cheer andy reid who was warming down. delaney would know this for sure but chose to lie on RTE in the hope that his interviewer would not. I know little of EL politics but i know that he has presided over a disasterous period for our flagship the national team. we have gone from first seeds to fourth seed in four years. if we get a tough group in the world cup theres a possiblilty that we will be fifth seeds by the time the next euro qualifications come round. The rot needed to be stopped but delaney chose expediency and a cheapo option, any of his comments about a committee selecting staunton i would treat in the same way i treat the comments above, pure lies. the buck stops with him. It is time to find us a manager who can arrest this decline. We have the players to be challenging for qualification and to do us proud in tournaments, we should not be out of the group with three games left to play. It's outrageous and the fans will soon vote with their feet and desert the team.

**NeilMcD** · 21/09/2007, 12:18 PM

Good post milla and the worst thing is Staunton is not a cheapo option. He is paid far more than most of the managers around Europe at international level. Very few managers earn more then him in the interenational game.

**Billsthoughts** · 21/09/2007, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Good post milla and the worst thing is Staunton is not a cheapo option. He is paid far more than most of the managers around Europe at international level. Very few managers earn more then him in the interenational game.

Do you have figures to back this up?

**Stuttgart88** · 21/09/2007, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Good post milla and the worst thing is Staunton is not a cheapo option. He is paid far more than most of the managers around Europe at international level. Very few managers earn more then him in the interenational game.

Relative to average earnings in those countries though? Karel Buckner (spelling) I hear earns EUR 200k or thereabouts. How much doesa 3 bed house cost near Prague? How much does a good Czech barrister earn?

**NeilMcD** · 21/09/2007, 1:38 PM

Yeah but if we are in a global market and competing for the likes of Beenhaker when people say if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, well we are not paying peanuts and we have a monkey. No offence meant to monkeys there. Beenhakker is at Poland and there is no way he is receiving more than Staunton and Robson combined. I read somewhere that Domenech was on less money than Staunton was.

**Billsthoughts** · 21/09/2007, 1:43 PM

Am not so sure a foriegn(as in continental) coach is the right way to go. The first thing he is gonna notice straightaway is that this team lacks basic technical ability they take for granted on the continent. what would beenhaker make of Kevin Kilbane - 5 million caps and cant control the ball? I suppose we have our own version of "Total Football" in a way......Total ****e Football"

**Noelys Guitar** · 21/09/2007, 2:08 PM

Someone like Beenhaker has watched a million Premiership/Old First Division games and understands the types of players we have available. The Dutch like a lot of us have always had the BBC and for them Tyne Tees instead of UTV. He should at least have been approached (as quite a few of us on this board requested at the time) to see if he was he interested in the then available post. When Hiddink was being payed 800,000(euros) a year by the Aussies that was seen as a huge figure to pay an international manager. So 450,000 a year is pretty good money in anyones language. My calculation is that Delaney could get rid of Stan by paying him half of what is left on his contract around 500000. That money can be recouped by one half decent sponorship deal. We desperately need someone to turn the tide of pessimism around. A proven manager. Whether it is Dutch, French, Jewell or Burley or whoever. I believe Delaney himself knows he has made a major error of judgement. And I can't see Stan lasting past this campaign.

**NeilMcD** · 21/09/2007, 2:33 PM

Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

Am not so sure a foriegn(as in continental) coach is the right way to go. The first thing he is gonna notice straightaway is that this team lacks basic technical ability they take for granted on the continent. what would beenhaker make of Kevin Kilbane - 5 million caps and cant control the ball? I suppose we have our own version of "Total Football" in a way......Total ****e Football"

Well hopefully the first thing he would do is make sure he and O Shea never play midfield roles for us ever again along with Douglas. If Kilbane has a postion for us it is left back. HImself and O Shea should be made fight for that one and only place on the team where there is no clear person to play there. I hope the first thing any manager notices is that some of our players do not have the technical ability. THey should also then come up with a gameplan that suits the players that we have. Organise us and make sure we have enough guys in midfield that can pass the ball. Ireland and A Reid Potter Stephen Reid Joey O Brien, Damien Duff can all pass the ball and keep it.

**NeilMcD** · 21/09/2007, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

Do you have figures to back this up?

I dont have access to them on the net but I will do a search. I did read an article in a few Sunday papers not long after the Cyprus game where they listed the earnings of each international manager and Staunton was in the top ten in the world. The point I am trying to get at is that we did not take the cheap option in fact we overpaid for a yellow pack manager.

**carloz** · 22/09/2007, 12:56 PM

Can someone explain to me why he was offered a contrat of supposedly oner 400,000 euro a year when he was a reserve team coach at a League 1 team and had absolutly nobody else looking for him. Did the FAI have a set wage for the new manager before the interviews even began. this is another issue that Delaney has to explain but no doubt he would attempt to ull**** his way out of it like he dos everything else

**Noelys Guitar** · 22/09/2007, 2:31 PM

Originally Posted by carloz

Can someone explain to me why he was offered a contrat of supposedly oner 400,000 euro a year when he was a reserve team coach at a League 1 team and had absolutly nobody else looking for him. Did the FAI have a set wage for the new manager before the interviews even began. this is another issue that Delaney has to explain but no doubt he would attempt to ull**** his way out of it like he dos everything else

It all sounds like Ridsdale at Leeds. Insane amounts of money offfered to dirge.

**geysir** · 22/09/2007, 2:42 PM

Without even searching through the net, Stan's salary is not in the top 10, nowhere near.
Beenhakker�s salary when at T&T was bankrolled, about a €1m p/a.
Our manager�s salary realistically should have some relation to what the SFA pay.
You could draw a line with whatever Scotland pay and then work down the scale to the starting level of experience that Stan had.

Wasn't Robson's contract for 2 years?

**Jerry The Saint** · 25/09/2007, 10:36 AM

Spotted John Delaney in Paris last weekend in a fetching pink shirt and Ireland scarf. Reason enough to sack him surely.

(BTW, I apologise if this is too much like Tom Watch. I know some people think it's not fair to talk about people who might not be "all there". Feel free to delete the entire thread if I've offended anybody).

**Billsthoughts** · 25/09/2007, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

Spotted John Delaney in Paris last weekend in a fetching pink shirt and Ireland scarf. Reason enough to sack him surely.

(BTW, I apologise if this is too much like Tom Watch. I know some people think it's not fair to talk about people who might not be "all there". Feel free to delete the entire thread if I've offended anybody).

genius!!!