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    Scotland is a prime example of what we could be with the right management team in place. At this moment in time we have 1 world class player and one other player with the potential to fall into the category of 'world class' when fully fit. The rest of the squad consists of run of the mill pro's which could be organised into a very solid and competent international side, well capable of qualifying for major tournaments.

    For me and most other football fans I know, Steve Finnan is without doubt a world class right full. He has proven this both on the PL and CL front. When fit and once he has the chance to prove himself on the european stage I think Shay also has the ability to reach the same level. The talk he is about to have with FAT Sam could be his gateway out of Newcastle and there is little doubt that a european club will come in to buy him.

    For me our last 2 managers have been below par. I have no time or confidence in Stan as a manager (his ability as a player was unquestionable) but Kerr was no dinamo either. His team selection was awful at times. On many occasions he played the likes of Steven Carr in place of Finnan and had Duff and Keane playing as a front 2.

    I feel we as fans as well within our right to view our displeasure in relation to the current setup. I will be going to the Germany, Cyprus and Wales games but in the event that we are being beaten and putting in performances of the calibre of Slovakia or Cyprus (pre-Hunt), I think it would be idiotic not to voice our disapproval.

    Personally, I feel that we may be wasting our time. The powers that be (well power in truth) are obviously quite happy to see the senior international team go down the plughole. I have little doubt that Stan will be in charge come 2010 and we will be relay the same posts over and over again.

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    I think Scotland has a more democratic football association too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Out of curiosity, does anyone know how many of these players played for Scotland in their "future squad" or whatever it was called in that 5 team pan-european mini league their were involved in over the last 2 years?
    I suspect we'll be hearing of a similar pan European under 23 leauge involving Ireland in the coming weeks for players uncapped at possibly under 21 and senior level.

    Ireland, N.Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales, Holland, Belgium, Norway, Sweden and Denmark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I think Scotland has a more democratic football association too.
    What exactly do you mean by that?
    "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy which sustained him through temporary periods of joy."

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    i.e., it's not the personal fiefdom of an autocratic despot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    i.e., it's not the personal fiefdom of an autocratic despot.
    Hmmm. I didnt think i would get an inteligent response. If you actually knew what the SFA was really like you owuldnt come on with those glib remarks.
    "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy which sustained him through temporary periods of joy."

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    educate me so rather than inserting those inane coloured face things after calling my response unintelligent. I'm always open to being corrected. I started by saying "I think" not stating absolute fact.

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    What you are saying Stutts, is that you are not an autocratic despot.

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    I try to be at home but not very successfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I try to be at home but not very successfully.
    With a female majority household I'm not surprised as you've no choice Stutts.

    We all know who wears the trousers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    educate me so rather than inserting those inane coloured face things after calling my response unintelligent. I'm always open to being corrected. I started by saying "I think" not stating absolute fact.
    It's called a smilie and indictates me rolling my eyes at your statement. Have you got that???
    "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy which sustained him through temporary periods of joy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayo_Bhoy View Post
    Hmmm. I didnt think i would get an inteligent response. If you actually knew what the SFA was really like you owuldnt come on with those glib remarks.
    I hate to get involved, but this comment is little more than trolling. What do you know about the SFA that he doesn't which is relevant here? I'd not be surprised to find that it's SFA.

    Now, in 20 words or less, complete the sentence, "Stuttgart88's glib remark was wrong because..."
    Or go back to your troll cave. Either way is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soccerc View Post
    With a female majority household I'm not surprised as you've no choice Stutts.

    We all know who wears the trousers
    It's actually 2 a side at the moment, though the little fella does like to wear his big sister's fairy dress. If he continues in the same manner his first Ireland shirt will have "O'Shea" on the back.

    Mayo Bhoy, I'm still waiting to hear about the SFA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post

    Mayo Bhoy, I'm still waiting to hear about the SFA
    Do you follow scottish football??

    The scandal over Jorge Cadette's delayed registartion in 1996 when Jim Farry was Chief Executive springs to mind.
    "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy which sustained him through temporary periods of joy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayo_Bhoy View Post
    Do you follow scottish football??

    The scandal over Jorge Cadette's delayed registartion in 1996 when Jim Farry was Chief Executive springs to mind.
    That's more than 10 years ago?? Anything else more recent you'd care to comment on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayo_Bhoy View Post
    Do you follow scottish football??

    The scandal over Jorge Cadette's delayed registartion in 1996 when Jim Farry was Chief Executive springs to mind.
    Can you stop answering questions with questions? I'm familiar with the Jorge Cadete transfer registration delay alright. All I'm asking is if in 2007 the SFA is more or less democratic than the FAI. I was under the impression that it was more democratic but if I'm wrong I'm fully open to being corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Can you stop answering questions with questions? I'm familiar with the Jorge Cadete transfer registration delay alright. All I'm asking is if in 2007 the SFA is more or less democratic than the FAI. I was under the impression that it was more democratic but if I'm wrong I'm fully open to being corrected.
    What exactly do you mean by asking is it democratic???

    As far as im concerned the SFA has in the past been involved in institutionalised bias towards Celtic. Maybe this is changing but their recent investigations into sectarian chanting by Rangers fans in the opening game of the SPL and the slap on the wrist that that club received suggest it has a long way to go. Anyway this is an Irish forum so im not going to get draggged into another debate about Scottish football, but i fail to see how you can say the SFA is more democratic than the FAI. Are you talking about their espective affiliates, structures or what??
    "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy which sustained him through temporary periods of joy."

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    Comparing the FAI and the SFA is like comparing Aids and Cancer.

    Both are extremely horrible and disliked.
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    In fact, I think I should get both parachutes, in case one doesn't work.

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    What I'm referring to is whether one man makes all the key decisions in the SFA regarding the international set up. For example, most criticism of Delaney at the moment centres around his virtually single handed decision to appoint Staunton and to persist with him. That's certainly the perception. However, my impression is that at the SFA a more collegiate structure exists. When Smith resigned I didn't hear that McLeish was the choice of one man and one man only.

    For what it's worth, I do take an interest in Scottish football and am fully aware of perceived institutional bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    What I'm referring to is whether one man makes all the key decisions in the SFA regarding the international set up. For example, most criticism of Delaney at the moment centres around his virtually single handed decision to appoint Staunton and to persist with him. That's certainly the perception. However, my impression is that at the SFA a more collegiate structure exists. When Smith resigned I didn't hear that McLeish was the choice of one man and one man only.

    For what it's worth, I do take an interest in Scottish football and am fully aware of perceived institutional bias.
    Fair enough. TBH im not familiar with the mechanisms within the SFA regarding the appointment of the team manager.
    "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy which sustained him through temporary periods of joy."

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