Sad Sobering Fact I Fear

**brine3** · 12/09/2007, 9:52 PM

I really don't care as long as we get somebody who can manage a football team.

**Reality Bites** · 12/09/2007, 9:53 PM

Originally Posted by Maroon 7

Everyone in the country knows Staunton should go but Stan has no intention of going anywhere and we all know the FAI aren't going to give him the bullet.

As per point in starting thread -thought Tony O'Donoghue post match interview as very telling indeed, 'Finally Steve is it now time to Reflect' Stan "No I am staying on building team for WC qualifiers blah blah blah etc" Stan will have to be pushed and Oscar Wilde ain't the man to do it, can't show up his poor choice!!

**IsMiseSean** · 12/09/2007, 9:56 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Absolutely not!! I'd prefer an Irishman, someone who knows what the fans want and what it takes, not many out there but IMO we should not go down the route of appointing foreigners

But is there a top quality Irish manager out there???

**Stuttgart88** · 12/09/2007, 9:59 PM

David O'Leary is a self serving snake, but I'd hire him in an instant at this stage.

In an odd way, watching RTE was a privilege tonight. Sorry Owls Fan but dunphy was faultless. Bill " I learnt TV presenting on the job". Eamon: " Would you let hin [ a rookie] drive the train to Cork?". Don't shed any tears for a well piad man losing his job. Sorry Stan, you meant well but it just ain't gonna happen. Get a job in club football, learn your trade and if in 5-10 years time you're a proven success apply again. Dunphy was right, WE deserve better. I maintain as a mantra that you only need 5 or 6 really good players and the rest need only be good enough. We have at least that situation now.

Once O'shea's injury forced his hand into playing what almost all of us here wanted, the team received a shot in the arm that if we'd had from the start it may well have been different.

Stan doesn't deserve any of the more vitriolic attacks on him that have been made here but at the same time I hope he's big enough to admit he just isn't good enough. I know he cares but then again we all do. At least the players showed THEY care tonight I thought.

Good news soccerc if you're right.

can anyone post tonight's panel on youtube? Sheer quality broadcasting.

**Aaron** · 12/09/2007, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by JGKyne

But is there a top quality Irish manager out there???

I dont know, its just my opinion that an Irishman should be in charge, who has managed at a high enough level. O'Leary is one, OK Kenny hasnt managed at a high enough level but is worth a try, Aldo is another i'd consider, but an Irishman it should be IMO.

**drummerboy** · 12/09/2007, 10:12 PM

I think O'Leary would be a good choice. I know he is hard to take at times but at least he would be able to organise the team. Thats basically all we need. Hopefully the likes of Finnan and Carsley decide to soldier on and hopefully we will have Stephen Reid, Joey O'Brien, Duffer and Potter back soon. Staunton was always a bad choice. I feel sorry for a man who served his country well, but he has been put in this situation by Delaney. Delaney shoudl go.

**billybunter** · 12/09/2007, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Yea I agree, who would want to manage us, that could be the fear in the FAI if they got rid of Staunton. I personally would like to see either Stephen Kenny or David O'Leary get a crack of the whip. Any other suggestions

john sheridan, jose pekerman, john aldridge, roy keane (part time)

**soccerc** · 12/09/2007, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by City till I Die

Its just my opinion that an Irishman should be in charge, who has managed at a high enough level. but an Irishman it should be IMO.

Paddy Walker is available

**Closed Account 2** · 12/09/2007, 10:15 PM

F**k it I'd take anyone else as manager now... Berti Vogts, Roy Hodgson, Gay Byrne even.

Seriously though, get shot of Stan asap, appoint someone with a short term contract thru to the end of the Euro 2008 qualifiers with a view to assuring 3rd place and getting decent performances. And if that happens make them permanent.

We risk falling off the radar unless the FAI act now.

**R�iteoir** · 12/09/2007, 10:17 PM

Bring Roddy in

**Aaron** · 12/09/2007, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Bring Roddy in

Unfortunately for Ireland Jim wants to stay with Dery City

**Closed Account 2** · 12/09/2007, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Bring Roddy in

F**k it - Roddy Doyle probably knows more about football than Stan

**Soko** · 12/09/2007, 10:31 PM

He doesn't have to Irish, it doesn't even need to be a he - just get that plonker out of here

**Naitch** · 12/09/2007, 10:46 PM

I really believe we should look at a non Irish/British manager. We need to change our style of play do adapt to the international scene.

**Risteard** · 12/09/2007, 10:47 PM

Whats with the over-reaction lads?
We lost the qualifying race in Cyprus and Slovakia.

Originally Posted by brine3

I don't blame Stan so much for what has happened. He wasn't up to scratch, but that was to be expected, he didn't have the experience. He was asked to manage his country and he grabbed it with both hands. I'd have done the same, and I'd have been **** too, as I have no experience in football management.

It's the FAI's fault for appointing him in the first place. Everybody knew it was the wrong decision but them.

Big countries can get away with appointing unexperienced former players as manager. They have the players for it. We don't. We need to get every single last drop out of the few decent players we have, and for that we need a good manager.

Agree completely.
Delaney is not fit to choose a successor.
As regards falling off the radar, were Slovakia not seeded above us?
We're third seeds apparently for the World cup groups.

**The Legend** · 12/09/2007, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Soko

He doesn't have to Irish, it doesn't even need to be a he - just get that plonker out of here

Hilary Clinton?

but on a serious note, im f**king sick of this sh*t... this sh*t being the FAI.

Good f**king luck against Germany!

**danonion** · 12/09/2007, 11:00 PM

Mick McCarthy

**sonofstan** · 12/09/2007, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by soccerc

I had a call just after the final whistle and these are the exact words:

"If Steve decides to go, we [the FAI] will not stand in his way."

The source is very reliable though he could also just be putting it out there to see what the temperature is.

I don't know who your call was from, but basically what you're saying is that the FAI - which means JD - are now spinning against Staunton; which is pretty disgusting.