GAA star exposed as dog fight 'pimp'

**Eirambler** · 30/08/2007, 12:19 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6969651.stm

Shocking stuff - dont want to see the guy on a GAA field again

**Dodge** · 30/08/2007, 12:24 PM

Well if the GAA follow the (American) NFL's lead they'll ban him indefinitely

Not sure if thats right tbh.

**Aberdonian Stu** · 30/08/2007, 12:34 PM

It'll be hard for the GAA to punish him as I don't think there are any formal rules that allow for conduct outside of a Gaelic Games environment (covers off the field activity in clubhouses, etc) that can cover it.

If anyone knows differently please feel free to correct me.

I know in the Vick case the NFL had formal structures in place to address such matters.

**Dodge** · 30/08/2007, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu

I know in the Vick case the NFL had formal structures in place to address such matters.

But the lngth of the ban is at the discretion of the commish

**Torn-Ado** · 30/08/2007, 1:41 PM

So its Gerard Cavlan.

It said on the RTE website a famous Ulster footballer but didn't give a name.

**Neish** · 30/08/2007, 2:07 PM

Show is on BBC(not sure if its 1 or 2) tonight at 9pm, should be banned for life then again small brain animals fighting & gaa is there a difference?

**beautifulrock** · 30/08/2007, 2:17 PM

Originally Posted by Neish

Show is on BBC(not sure if its 1 or 2) tonight at 9pm, should be banned for life then again small brain animals fighting & gaa is there a difference?

Other than small brains posting in forums ...

**monutdfc** · 30/08/2007, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by Torn-Ado

So its Gerard Cavlan.

It said on the RTE website a famous Ulster footballer but didn't give a name.

I'm pretty sure he was already prosecuted for offences relating to dog-fighting a few months ago...
...I'll Google it now

Edit: I've just read the linked article!

**pete** · 30/08/2007, 2:53 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6969651.stm

Shocking stuff - dont want to see the guy on a GAA field again

Disgusting. If he was a player for club I supported I wouldn't want him to ever play for us again.

**OneRedArmy** · 30/08/2007, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Disgusting. If he was a player for club I supported I wouldn't want him to ever play for us again.

Thats Tyrone people for you.....

**paul_oshea** · 30/08/2007, 3:24 PM

Pete, if you ask me its all the GAA's fault.

Btw, did you hear them at it again at the weekend, or were you able pull yourself away from "just having the tele on in the background" from the all ireland semi-final

**paul_oshea** · 30/08/2007, 8:54 PM

ha ha that was class

"show me the picture" look, and then whoops the cops come along, he wasn't expecting that!!!!

**paul_oshea** · 30/08/2007, 8:56 PM

good one, show the paddies out to be the non pro-active people as usual.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 30/08/2007, 9:54 PM

Disgusting carry on. Watching it at the minute.

**Casei11** · 30/08/2007, 10:45 PM

disgraceful stuff,cavlan will get some abuse if he ever appears on a gaelic pitch again and rightly so

**Dodge** · 30/08/2007, 10:53 PM

Threads in Off topic and other sports merged an put in current affairs

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Am I the only one who thought the sight of about 6 grown men watching dogs fight was pathetic?

Hard to watch the actual dog fights. Pretty damning evidence all round

**lopez** · 30/08/2007, 11:14 PM

Tonight on a BBC Panorama Special/ BBC NI Spotlight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...t/30/dog.shtml

**OneRedArmy** · 30/08/2007, 11:46 PM

I think as punishment Cavlan should be made to fight another dog fighting pimp (preferably another Tyrone footballer...but maybe thats asking too much) whilst a group of dogs look on.

Possibly smoking cigars and betting like in those paintings....

**Superhoops** · 30/08/2007, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

I think as punishment Cavlan should be made to fight another dog fighting pimp (preferably another Tyrone footballer...but maybe thats asking too much) whilst a group of dogs look on.

Possibly smoking cigars and betting like in those paintings....

Kerry's Paul Galvin might be a suitable opponent, He is a bit of a mad dog!!!

**dcfcsteve** · 31/08/2007, 1:12 AM

Shocking stuff indeed. Though I have to say, it doesn't surprise me to hear that type of thing goes on in small town country Ireland. As one of the Farmers Boys said to try to brush away the death of that kid in Liverpool : "This is just a problem in English inner cities".

That said - there is a serious problem in South London with angry dogs now being used by kids as weapons. Walk down the street with a knife and you'll get arrested. Walk down the street with an illegal animal bred to attack and that can do nearly as much damage to you as a knife, and no-one bats an eye-lid. Crazy...

A few things would need to happen following that programme :

1) The Tyrone guy should be dropped form the Tyrone GAA Panel. I would say for good. The GAA doesn't need people like that (particularly when it's struggling to hold onto positive role-models like a law-abiding Protestant hurler).
2) If there is scope for it within the rules, he should be disciplined by the GAA for bringing the game into disrepute (or similar).
3) Now that he has been exposed as having lied in both his trial and his subsequent appeal, he should be back in court on perjury charges, re-tried on the original offence, and given a stiffer scentence. He should also be banned from owning dogs for life.
4) The Irish government needs to question why it hasn't also banned breeds of dogs that have been designed solley for fighting. Or will some kid in Dublin or Limerick need to get ripped to shreds before they bother their arses....

Will be interesting to see what the fall out in Tyrone and Tandragee is in the next week....